Is eBay the safest place to buy autographs?

...I'm beginning it think it is.

This is probably typical in the UK regarding T&Cs listed by auction houses...….

"All statements contained in the catalogue as to the authenticity, attribution, genuineness, origin, authorship, date, age, period, condition or quality of any Lot are statements of opinion, and are not to be taken as, or as implying, statements or representations of fact. Imperfections not stated"

So, If you purchased an item that you won and a few weeks later you fount it to be fake, you couldn't get a refund. At best, you would find it difficult.

If the same happened on eBay you will get a refund if you can give some sort of proof (UACC or PSA etc) I purchased a fake coin last year and got a refund with no problem, despite the seller being an ass. eBay give more protection to the buyer than the seller.

What is your experience?

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Permalink Reply by Abcd on September 2, 2018 at 2:29pm

I've sent eBay another message regarding the out of control fakery. I will keep going until there is a satisfactory outcome. It won't be easy, but I see that as a challenge. If I know  right is on my side....

Permalink Reply by CJCollector on September 2, 2018 at 2:32pm

Michael, it's been going on for twenty years, what makes you think they're going to start caring now?

The only time they cared, was when they had the EMR Team in place; but then they realized they were losing too much money by removing the forgeries and they terminated the EMR Team.

Permalink Reply by Abcd on September 2, 2018 at 2:39pm

I will keep going. My next question to them will be regarding their inactivity due to loss of sales.

Permalink Reply by marc e on September 2, 2018 at 2:43pm

While it going can u find trumps tax returns that would be a better use of ur time 

Permalink Reply by Abcd on September 2, 2018 at 2:59pm

I have some suggestions for them and I will try and put my case across in a face to face meeting at their UK office. I might not succeed, but that won't stop me trying. 

Permalink Reply by marc e on September 2, 2018 at 2:28pm

Only if that link is for hookers will it work otherwise waste of time

Permalink Reply by goodcat on September 2, 2018 at 1:13pm

hahaha ;)

Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on September 2, 2018 at 4:16pm

EBAY is not the safest place to buy autographs. Give me a break.it is a great place to find deals if you know what you’re doing. While the clueless chase the basement bargains and the $20 A-listers. Experienced collectors can snap up the good buys in the next tier if they know what they’re doing and get some smoking deals on the good stuff that the authenticators have had a chance to deface.

Permalink Reply by Anthony d. Coccia sr on September 4, 2018 at 10:57am

I only buy becket, psa/dna and jsa coa’s Am I safe with these companies and are there any other legit companies.  I called eBay and several forgeries they don’t want to hear it and they don’t care

Permalink Reply by just some dude on September 4, 2018 at 11:05am

The safest way is to be intimately familiar with what you are buying. No one is perfect. Everyone makes mistakes. Some people make a fortune knowingly selling fakes. Some people buy and resell fakes unknowingly. A mistake made years ago by a 3rd party authenticator could cruise, by and large successfully, until eternity based on that mistake OR it could be recognized as a skillfull forgery years after the fact. The point is, nobody, is perfect. There are only degrees of certainty, unless you saw it signed in person yourself. Period.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on September 4, 2018 at 11:06am

No, just because something has a sticker or papers from those places you may still be buying forgeries or other problem material. It is best to know the autograph, do your research and then buy. Those companies "should" weed out secretarials, Autopens, preprints, and forgeries but they have made more than what I would consider an acceptable amount of mistakes and continue to do so. It is best IMO to consider the autograph more than  the papers/names etc. Relying on a name alone...bad idea.

Here is a fake from from JSA - click form full image:

Permalink Reply by Abcd on September 5, 2018 at 4:04am

Just to summarise:

eBay is great for the seasoned buyer. They are quick to refund, as they know they are partners in crime.

Do they care? Absolutely not. Everyone has their price and theirs is 10%

In the UK some (not all) auction houses work to the same principles. If they can get away with a dodgy item, then they do. Trying getting a refund from them and you're in for a wait.

This is from my experience. Yours may differ.

 

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