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Authenticity is Everything
eBay tells me...."They allow forgeries" I'm NOT JOKING GUYS.
I brought up eBay seller: this-n-thatsportscollectiblesplusmore the other day and after going through his account and calculating how much money he has made on forgeries, I decided to call eBay yesterday. After being transferred around, I finally get a hold of someone in (Fraud Resolution) and this person seemed to have knowledge of autographs.
At any rate, I firstly explained my frustration with eBay allowing forgeries to constantly be sold on their site and how it seems that eBay has a serious lack of concern in relation to the problem of forgeries being sold on their site.
HIS RESPONSE: The Fraud Department does its very best to weed out easily identifiable forgeries and those of higher valued items by using Third Party Authenticators to look at items that have been reported. However, it is the buyers responsibility to do their own research before bidding
I then asked why Global Authentication is still an eBay approved authenticator with their reputation of authenticating thousands and thousands of forgeries on a monthly basis.
HIS RESPONSE: I will have to defer on that question because I don't have an answer for you. I will pass that comment along to the fraud department.
I then brought up seller this-n-thatsportscollectiblesplusmore who has sold over 250,000 $$$ dollars in forgeries all authenticated by Global Authentication. I explained that I go in weekly to report his items, yet they never get removed.
HIS RESPONSE: In order for an item to be removed it must be reported by multiple eBay users.
SO AFTER THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION, I feel that eBay is very passive on forgeries. Based on this conversation, it honestly seemed to me that they don't give a rats tail if people sell forgeries.
LET'S DO THIS...GO TO this-n-thatsportscollectiblesplusmore and report every item you think is fake. Let's just see if we all report if eBay will do anything about him. He has sold over 1,000 Tom Brady signed Helmets and Footballs and I have reported EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. By myself NONE OF THEM HAVE EVER BEEN REMOVED. Let us see if as a team, we can get action. So go look at the autographs you feel are fake and report them. Will it get a response out of ebay?
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Permalink Reply by wascher on
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Bryan (or Steve as he calls himself here) messaged the partner to tell him what was going on, and he showed up on a different thread about their "business" His messages yesterday start HERE
When you have no defense the best move is to strike out and start screaming out vulgarities.
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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on
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Good luck with that.
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Permalink Reply by Jason Poulos on
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I live in my mom's basement? First of all, what I did was an averaging of sales. I took a sample of 100 of his FORGERY AUCTIONS and found out what the average sell price was and then multiplied that times the number of FORGERIES HE HAS SOLD. I didn't actually go in with a calculator and add up every single item.
Secondly, I actually don't live in my mom's basement. I am pretty well off and I feel that the good Lord and karma are the reason I am. I am a person who treats people with respect and also someone who tries to always do the right thing. Following those 2 motto's things have always gone great for me
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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on
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Shill #2 enters stage right.
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Permalink Reply by Eileen Mullen on
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New to forum, but just had to jump in and comment on how educational/entertaining this thread has been! I am picturing a Theater in the Round production, with a slowly rotating stage so the small audience is enthralled...leaning forward so as to capture every word...every nuance....every AH HA! moment.
Good work
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Permalink Reply by Hugh Costra on
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This seller too always sell fake autographs for many years and always on ebay :
http://www.ebay.com/usr/bcca1985
i really don't understand !
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Permalink Reply by Timothy Jolly on
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They are horrendous!!!
All of them... Cameron Diaz hasn't signed like that for 10+ years!
If I wanted to get angry for any reason I'd just go on eBay and search autographs... Just sad someone might have a beautiful display with a fake as a centrepiece
It's brilliant people helping to weed out some forgeries, it's almost a losing battle though...
I know people with earlier autographs look under UV check the 'penmanship' of the signature. I just wish there was some sort of technological = type thingy invented that 100% could demonstrate angle/pressure so you could check them so easily. Would delete 10000s of auctions immediately!!
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Permalink Reply by burneggroll on
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Transporting a forgery (an item created to defraud) across state lines used to be a federal no-no. Now it is permitted if the forgery is "clearly indicated". Hence eBay removing the ban on forgeries.
As a sometimes part-time dealer/collector of forgeries created in antiquity (over a hundred years ago), I'm glad to finally be able to come out in the daylight.
Forgery is as old as value. And through out history it is not uncommon for the leading expert and the leading forger to turn out to be the same man. In Picasso's later years, he was often called upon to authenticate his creations. We now know that he approved any of the art he liked, and refused many of his own that he did not like ☺
My advice is to be sure you like it, and love it for more than dollar value. Collectibles for a financial investment is a sure road to poverty.
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You created an account to post that? Bizarre....very bizarre.
Actually autograph collecting can be a great investment and regardless of what Picasso did.....it doesn't apply in the world of autographs. A forgery is a foolish thing to even have. It is a symbol of so many hateful things...Greed, Deception, among many others. It's bad mojo.
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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on
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What in the world is the point of that post??? It doesnt relate to autograph forgeries at all, save maybe the bit of info on ebay, which is always appreciated
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Carl, do you realize this man says he is a dealer/collector of forgeries? I don't appreciate a damn thing he says.
and I quote As a sometimes part-time dealer/collector of forgeries created in antiquity, I'm finally glad to be able to come out in the day light............
REALLY.................????? I MEAN.......REALLY
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