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Authenticity is Everything
All in the Family Cast Photo
I picked up this as a Carroll O'Connor single signed photo many years ago. Probably ebay, but I can't recall.
Then, I sent TTM to the rest of the cast members for completion.
Do I have any clunkers on here?
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Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on
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The Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers sigs are the same ones I see on everything, but I don't know whether they're secretarial or genuine. The Jean Stapleton looks really smashed together and a bit odd so I'm not sure about it being authentic. You're sure the Carroll O'Connor is good?
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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on
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Actually, the Stapleton was the one I was least concerned about. I sent her a letter first and she replied back with a handwritten note saying she'd be happy to sign it.
I am not sure the O'connor is ok. It looks ok from my cursory research, but I was hoping someone with expertise would know for sure.
I figured the JS and SS were probably ok. The other two are higher risk.
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I can't say I have any expertise. I'm just barely familiar with their signatures after seeing some here or there over the years. But I don't think there are any or many renowned experts on All in the Family signatures so a thread like this may be good to piece together the facts.
The O'Connor is a little off in my recollection of them because every O'Connor autograph I've seen has the n's highest point at about half of the r at the end. They're about equal in this one. The r itself isn't exactly what I've seen but it may just be another variant or signed at a different time then the pieces I've seen. Also it seems there's fairly often a break between the last r and the o in Carroll, though I doubt that's on every one.
The Jean Stapleton may be genuine and just more recent than anything I've seen, but it'd be hard to tell with everything so smashed together.
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Permalink Reply by Peter Lougheed on
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Why is the Rob Reiner auto cut off?
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I don't know. I suspect maybe another sheet of paper or the envelope got in the way... so it clipped the end of the sig.
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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on
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interesting......the Stapleton is the one that looks the least consistent but maybe she has changed her signature style in her later years. the o'connor may be secretarial. I have one just like it, and one on an index card that is totally different.
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I ran this by Bill White at RR Auction. He felt the Carroll O'Connor was a forgery.
Ugh. What a waste of time adding the other three sigs.
When I compared to the other examples in the RR archives, the O'Connor is close, but there are some differences. It seems the letters -- especially the rr and nn -- on the example above are a bit more well-formed and stretched out than in what I see in the RR archives.
This is why I avoid Hollywood items. LOL I mean, who is out there forging Carroll O'Connor for heaven's sake?
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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Sorry Zippy,
Could be worse. Josh Board spent 20 years completing a Beatles-signed Sgt. Pepper's 45. He writes this great story on it and sends me the photos:
The Lennon signature on the record when he bought it in '89 wasn't real.
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It goes to show you almost can't be too careful and never assume.
I bought the O'Connor over 10 years ago... and at that time who would think someone was forging a $30 autograph? A quick review shows it's pretty close to the limited other examples I could find... so I think it's good. And it's done pretty well... it's not an obvious hack job. Sheesh...
Lesson learned.
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Ahhh... how horrible. A bad experience for sure. Did you find out whether the other three signatures were good?
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Bill felt the other 3 are not known to use secretary, so they were likely ok. He did mention the Stapleton was odd, but it was a moot point with a fake Archie.
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