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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 11, 2021 at 3:03pm

Excellent question.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 11, 2021 at 4:03pm

Jamnick, the implication that it is possibly an authentic set, that Beatles experts will recognize them for what they are - that is the problem here.

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Permalink Reply by Jamnick Jarms on May 11, 2021 at 4:10pm

and the person who paid $1250 later sells the autograph for maybe $2000. I think for very good fakes $2000 would not be a utopia. It's all about the money. The 'real' collectors should only buy from Beatles experts e.g. tracks. Of course Tracks makes very high profits, but you can be pretty sure that the autographs are authentic. 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 11, 2021 at 4:14pm

Good fakes? I don't want to see forgeries passed on again for even more profit! This is not about "real collectors" but the average guy. And he may well believe the implication we spoke of. 

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Permalink Reply by Jamnick Jarms on May 11, 2021 at 4:21pm

Yes, I can only speak of myself personally. If I see that stand twice reproduction, then I Do Not bid - quite simple. 

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Permalink Reply by Jamnick Jarms on May 11, 2021 at 4:17pm

Yes Eric, I have already understood. As I wrote, I think some people buy these good fakes to resell them at a high price.

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Permalink Reply by spaceman on May 11, 2021 at 4:23pm

Using the word reproduction in this case is a farce  in itself. These are forged signatures. What have they been reproduced from. The statement I give guarantee that the signatures are not a copy, print or preprint and original signed with pen actually means they are not a reproduction. They were not signed by th Beatles so they are forged. Another scam set with a play on words.

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Permalink Reply by Jamnick Jarms on May 11, 2021 at 4:47pm

Right, another reason why I wouldn't bid on it if I wanted an orginal autograph unless I wanted to resell it for more money. Look at this example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/193325516432
This is offered as an original and not as a reproduction. It should be deleted from Ebay. If it was offered as a reproduction, it would be a different matter. 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 11, 2021 at 4:49pm

"...Right, another reason why I wouldn't bid on it if I wanted an orginal autograph unless I wanted to resell it for more money..."

Certainly you misspoke.

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Permalink Reply by Jamnick Jarms on May 11, 2021 at 4:54pm

Yes Eric, I'm talking about the people who pay $1250 for it because they want to resell I for more money. 

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on May 11, 2021 at 5:01pm

You seem to be under the impression that it’s appropriate to describe a forgery or secretarial signature as being a “reproduction.” In any case, they’re described as being live ink signatures with specific provenance. It’s intentionally misleading.

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Permalink Reply by Jamnick Jarms on May 11, 2021 at 5:11pm

If it's a live ink signatures, then it's legitimate to mention that. I think on Ebay you can only take original or reproduction in the item specifics.
The provenance is misleading, I agree.
But again, there will be a reason why $1250 was paid for it. 

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