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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on April 30, 2016 at 9:17am

it looks like JSA is not an expert on Trump either.

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Permalink Reply by TradeGeek on May 1, 2016 at 6:59pm

I was at a signing event just a couple weeks ago with my son. It drew a good crowd because Adrian Gonzalez was singing, which apparently he does not due often.

Talking to all the other in person collectors while in line, there seemed to be a consensus that JSA is inconsistent, even with sport autographs. They see questionable items for sale with a JSA cert, while an item they send in which was signed in front of them gets rejected.

It's hearsay, I have never personally sent anything to a third party. But that seems to be the general consensus.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on May 1, 2016 at 7:31pm

I've seen enough of them to know I don't like or trust them. Too much interest in raking in money quickly and aggressively and not enough in sound practices that are good for the hobby. Their authentication means almost nothing to me personally.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 5, 2016 at 10:19am

A member just posted 4 Trump-signed military hats he purchased on eBay that he'd like input on. If you know Trump's autograph, please let him know what you think, thanks:

http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/are-these-trump-sign...

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Permalink Reply by Mark Roberts on May 5, 2016 at 10:49am

I am not familiar with his signature to make any call what so ever.. sorry

Mark

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 5, 2016 at 11:33am

Here's a PSA/DNA Trump $2 posted in the discussion with the 4 hats:

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Permalink Reply by Russell Decotis on May 5, 2016 at 12:32pm

Wish I could this many replies on my Trump signed hat discussion posted today.  I have two of these I just bought with JSA COA on eBay, yours looks the same as mine.  My 4 military signed hats by Trump are not legit according to PSA QUICK OPINION, however former Marine is seen in You Tube video with camo hat on.  Trump was in a rush.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 5, 2016 at 12:47pm

This discussion has been up since April 27, Russell. Give it a little time. You bought these on eBay, probably through PayPal, so you should be protected--although it's always best to get opinions first.

Notice how the signature tends to get progressively smaller on Mark's and your PSA $2 bill. That's a common Trump characteristic. I'm not saying it's there every time, but it's what I've mostly seen.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 5, 2016 at 12:50pm

But PSA/DNA and JSA can both get it wrong. Sometimes it's their mistake and sometimes the autograph is to atypical. Since all 4 of yours are what I'd consider similarly atypical, that does make me suspicious.

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Permalink Reply by Russell Decotis on May 5, 2016 at 1:25pm

If they are fake the guy on eBay is really going out of his way to tell me they are not.  I didn't pay that much for them, he can be seen in youtube video at mesa rally wearing a camo hat.  It's definitely him, saw his facebook page, big guy.

here is a email he sent me about this matter:

Before you go calling someone out for fake autographs you should do your research I'm the number 3 provider of autographed comics in the country. Signed stuff is what I do. It's all I do. It's my business. Look at my ebay name I'm sure you can figure out my website and Facebook page. I come with references bud. No I don't know anything about your little companies that you use for Signature Authentication but if they're telling you these are not legit they're completely full of s***. You ever think that maybe they just don't want to do it because he's running for president and they don't want to be liable?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 5, 2016 at 1:37pm

"Before you go calling someone out for fake autographs you should do your research I'm the number 3 provider of autographed comics in the country. "Signed stuff is what I do. It's all I do. It's my business. Look at my ebay name I'm sure you can figure out my website and Facebook page. I come with references bud. No I don't know anything about your little companies that you use for Signature Authentication but if they're telling you these are not legit they're completely full of s***. You ever think that maybe they just don't want to do it because he's running for president and they don't want to be liable?"

Not the way I'd respond. Not quite warm and fuzzy. I don't see "I understand your concerns, (actually, please elaborate on what exactly is troubling you), but I saw this signed myself. Please look at my feedback and also compare my item to these known exemplars linked  here XXX, and let me know your thoughts..."

I don't like the sigs.

The response says a lot though.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Russell Decotis on May 5, 2016 at 1:42pm

Thank you, all replies so far have me leaning towards the same conclusion.  Think maybe I want these to be real more than I want to accept that they are not. 

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