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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on January 13, 2018 at 11:30am

Here is my 100% original and authentic President Obama signature on my Army retirement certificate. If you guys don't think it's real it's because you are a-holes and just trying to scam me out of my treasure. 

Permalink Reply by CJCollector on January 13, 2018 at 11:32am

$10.00, Rick, but only if I get free shipping...

Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on January 13, 2018 at 12:06pm

Daniel, meet Ivan. Kindred spirits.

Permalink Reply by CJCollector on January 13, 2018 at 1:02pm

Good one, Steve.

Permalink Reply by goodcat on January 13, 2018 at 1:32pm

ha haa

+1

This thread is worth an entry fee LOL

Permalink Reply by goodcat on January 13, 2018 at 3:45pm

Steve

It looks like you'll have to address Daniel by his new "gangsta" name

baaaahahahaha

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 13, 2018 at 1:56pm

Daniel,

Unless someone finds copies of letters with the same text, perhaps it is a personal letter to you from Reagan. But it was very common for President Reagan to dictate a letter and then an autopenned signature would be added to it.

There are major letters and documents by Reagan and other presidents that are signed with autopenned signatures. GW Bush and Obama have had bills signed using them. It's legal.

If there is a matching known autopen exemplar of the signature on your letter, then it is an autopenned one, even if there are tiny irregularities, which could come from the pen, the condition of the pen, how the pen was placed in the Autopen machine, and whether or not it was tightly held or becoming loose.

I know it can be hard, but we appreciate it when disappointment isn't taken out on other members. You still have a letter to treasure from President Reagan.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 13, 2018 at 3:56pm

Oh well, you can't please everyone.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 13, 2018 at 3:58pm

I'm suspending Daniel to avoid more offensive language.

Permalink Reply by CJCollector on January 13, 2018 at 4:26pm

Mr. Waters came here with an agenda (no big deal), but he could have been mature about it.

I honestly think he was trying to convince himself that it was authentic and when he was handed proof, his only alternative was to vent to us.

If that letter was really auctioned at Sotheby's, he would have provided proof.

His disappointment that it is an autopen probably crushed him and that was evidenced in his use of foul language to vent.

Or, he was just trying to toy with us.

It's not a 10K item, but it's still a cool item that came from President Reagan.

Permalink Reply by Pete Bendu on January 13, 2018 at 4:33pm

...and back to his toy rockets he goes.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 13, 2018 at 4:34pm

Sotheby’s is extremely good on presidential autographs. This would not have gotten past them. They have an in-house expert who is top-notch and they talk to other experts as well. 

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