Authenticity is Everything
Liza Minelli - Kids, Wait Till You Hear This! (Signed Book)
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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo
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I do believe that is mechanical.
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Permalink Reply by Matt M.
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Good to know, I appreciate you taking a look. I feel the same… but I’ve looked at so many now that they are all looking the same lol. I think I’ve seen enough to say safely that something very strange is going on and these are questionable at the least.
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Permalink Reply by Jason H
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Thats it.. you really uncovered something here!! This needs media attention now before it autopens go further and reach undetectable levels. (Which may be inevitable anyways at a certain point)
When the Bob Dylan fiasco was just beyond this stage, I started contact every media organization who accepts tips, every journalist I could think of. I NEVER received a response from anyone aside from Chris Willman at Variety.. maybe try him once this is all organized and easy to follow.
Matt, please start a new thread specifically titled correctly for this Liza nonsense and keep updating the original post so when it's sent around, it will make perfect sense to the media. Maybe gather a little bit more proof and then I will help you pass this along as much as I can the same way I did with Dylan. You deserve a ton of credit for this work and I hope it takes off and becomes international news just like Dylan did. All it took was 1 guy to print the story and every news source piggybacked.
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Thanks, will do. I was thinking about starting a new thread just so it shows up on Google but I wasn’t sure if I should. I may need a little time to compile everything together neatly but I’ll at least get the thread started.
I agree we may have uncovered something that needs attention, I encourage everyone to compare their examples With what out there. I appreciate everyone who posted theirs here, it helped a lot.
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Maybe talk to Steve about how to title and tag it here so it shows up best for Google search?
Liza by herself might not get much attention but this is bigger than Liza and needs to be pitched to the media in the right way. Maybe thats the reason why they chose someone like her to try this out on. Very strange how Hillary Duff was such an obvious autopen right before this release.
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Permalink Reply by Lumpy
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Big thanks to all of you that have worked on this so far. Impressive! I got my copy a few days ago from B&N and it’s going back.
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Ok, I think I see why that Facebook group was posted together. I’m not on there so I didn’t see what the context was, but here’s two more from the Facebook group posted on page 7 of this thread.
-Notice how almost all of the smiley face lines up on this one
-With a slight adjustment, notice how the Z and the A start to align as well
I may have needed a little more time with this one, but I think it’s clear we’re dealing with a pretty deliberate effort to disguise the autopen.
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Multiple templates and placements is my guess.Maybe the occasional "bump" here and there.
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I think it goes further than that. This scares me because there seems to be variations in pen pressure. No basic dots at the beginning and end of each line. I'm just going by what I see online though. I do not have one physically to see for myself up close.
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Lol yeah, it’s like someone (something?) just slightly manipulated the machine occasionally to make them appear different. But also multiple templates being combined to confuse the situation.
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So Premiere (bookplated) is sold out and I've only found 1 for sale so far on Ebay and nothing with the $12 JSA certification option. At least the smiley face has been moved.
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Hey everyone, I'd suggest we start commenting on Matt's new post here. If this takes off, the media will need an organization spot to get info from and it would be best if it received a lot of attention from all of us going forward. You might laugh thinking who is going to care about Liza? But this is bigger than Liza. This is a threat to our hobby. We would still be stuck on secretarial discussions if it wasn't for Matt. Let's give Matt the credit he deserves for this find and try to get this in the media.
https://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/liza-minnelli-kids-...
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