Starting this separate thread to track the potential Liza Minnelli autopen situation.

It appears that signed copies of her new book, Kids Wait Till You Hear This!, may include autopen signatures. 

I’m working to update this thread with the information to date, but for now, please see the existing Liza Minnelli thread for more information. 

https://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/liza-minelli-kids-w...

Feel free to post your examples or any info on the return situation. 

Overlay Video 1

Note how “Liza” matches up 

Overlay Video 2

-First round, note how the “Love” appears to overlay nearly exactly

-Second round, the circle of the smiley face appears to overlap closely, and the L is starting to line up as well 

-Third round, the Z and the A in “Liza” appear to lineup closely.

Overlay Video 3

Notice how almost all of the smiley face lines up on this one

-With a slight adjustment, notice how the Z and the A start to align as well

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She is on TV tonight, no way she signed those books!!

Here's mine from Indigo books in Canada


Long-time lurker here who actually signed up to join in this conversation.   I agree that she couldn't have done these, but I can't imagine that she somehow has access to a newfangled AI mix-and-match autopen.  Something  is definitely off, though.  And they do all seem to be the same hand.  Secretarial seems like a good likelihood. 

Here's my copy, from Waterstones.  

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Hi JG, glad you joined and thanks for posting your examples. Yeah, I’m sort of at a loss of what to think on this. I’ve seen evidence to suggest  mechanical involvement, but also not ruling out some sort of secretarial involvement. I think it’s clear though that she did not sign these. 

I took your example and compared it with one that was posted in the Facebook group on the original thread.

-As I first start overlaying, notice the close overlap on the word “Love”. It’s not exact but close- Not enough to be definitive, but certainly concerning.

-Then I start to overlap the Z’s. Notice how the top loop of the L in “Liza” overlaps nicely at the same time that the “I” starts to line up (including the dot), along with the Zs and the As falling into place. It just seems really odd but obviously, the rest of it is not falling into place. 

London&Facebook

Ok, I think this shows the issue pretty well. I took a close-up of the consistent elements in JG’s signature and a close up of the one from Facebook. Here is an overlay of that. 


Overlay close-up

Watch the top of the smiley face. All I am doing is bringing the circle of the smiley face into line. Watch how the Z falls into place. Watch how the top loop of the L falls into place. Yes the “A” is a little off and also the “I” but you can see how they seem to be off by a very small and consistent distance. There’s just no way. 

Just saw this and have to agree with you  Allginger 

"no way she signed all those books!!"

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i4ntgliZwWg

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