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Permalink Reply by wascher on August 10, 2018 at 11:53am

The item has been pulled.  They thanked me for reaching out to them in a professional manner.  I always like to report it here too - to show they are pulling items.  I did tell them about the discussion here as well, and I know some of the guys from there are on our forum.  Good job guys. :)

-w

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Permalink Reply by wascher on August 10, 2018 at 2:11am

Another lot of six forgeries by Erick McKay - bluelifesaver eBay account

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-autograph-6-autograph-set-...

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Selling 6 autograph combo, 4 photos 4X6, 1 neverland stationary and 1 single autograph.

No copies, no pre prints, this are 100% originals.

Shipping priority mail with tracking number only, no exceptions.

Shipping to another country? Yes, it is around $32.00 with priority mail/tracking number/insured.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on August 10, 2018 at 2:16am

Erick McKays eBay account marc-at2014 selling a single Michael Jackson forgery - he pretends once again to be coming to the States to ship the item out.  He sure travels here a lot!  Current bid $38.51

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-autograph-on-MJJ-productio...

Very nice autograph from Michael Jackson on his own MJJ productions document, rare and real.
This item has sort of a fold on the middle right side that somehow is not visible on the pictures.
There are no rips or yellowing nor tears on this document.
Within Europe shipping is around 8 Euros.
Outside Europe around 29 Euros
I will be in Kansas City on August 12th to the 18th and I can ship the item from there at $7.00 with priority mail and tracking number, Thanks.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on August 13, 2018 at 1:15am

The above item sold for 124.26

Another set of auction forgeries is now available from Erick's bluelifesaver account.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-autograph-on-Thriller-LP-w...

Selling this amazing piece of music history, Thriller signed by Michael Jackson, with a solid MJJ productions COA.
I am placing no reserve price on this item.
LP, inner and outer jackets are fine, it is not a new record, please keep this in mind.
It sounds ok, autograph with black sharpie looks spectacular.
Any questions please ask me before auction/bidding ends.
Shipping only priority mail.
Overseas price with priority mail and insurance runs around $38.00

Another bluelifesaver auction - forged Peter Pan drawing with forged COA

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Michael-Jackson-autograph-on-peter-pan-dra...

Selling this one of a kind Michael Jackson drawing of Peter Pan, he also signed it and it was done on his own MJJ productions document.
You, the lucky buyer will receive not one but two autographs (one on drawing and one on COA).
This is not a copy nor a print, 100% real.
No reserve price on this auction.
Shipping via priority mail only, no exceptions.
Shipping overseas runs around $38.00 (priority mail with insurance).
You are looking at a rare and very unique drawing of Peter Pan, done completely by Michael Jackson. this drawing was also signed by Michael himself.
Done on one MJJ productions stationary.
Drawing has no blemishes nor rips or tears.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on August 10, 2018 at 2:28am

Erick McKay - Michael Jackson forgery from his always-for-fun account.  This is the account where he pretends to be a 70 yr old man who bought items from an auction years ago and he's too old now and wants to pass on the good deals to others.  He uses broken English and pretends he is naive.  He has previously sold forged Beatles items from this account, as well as MJ's etc.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-MICHAEL-JACKSON-VHS-PLAYER-ULTRA-R...

“USED AND STILL SEAL FROM STATE AUCTION 1988 UNTIL TODAY PLEASE LOOK AT THE PICTURE GOOD TO WIN THIS IS TOP DEAL SEEN TODAY AS I BUY IT SEAL I SALE IT FOR THE SIGNED I THINK ITS REAL AS I MATCH IT LONG TIME AGO”

I SALE TOP OF THE LINE STUFF & TRY TO DO UR OWN SEARCH ALL 100/100 ORIGINAL MADE IN USA TO WIN THEM MUST LOOK VERY GOOD TO PICTURE AND DO UR OWN SEARCH FOR THE PICTURE BECAUSE MY EYES NOT GOOD ANY MORE I BUY THEM FROM THE STATE AUCTION LONG TIME AGO AND THEY SEAL THEM TO ME PLEASE AS IS ALL ORIGINAL SOME ARE VERY RARE AS I NO & STAY WITH MY LIST TO WIN MORE DEAL IM MID 70 NOW AND EVERY THING MUST GO TO YOU & ASK WELCOME GOD SAVE ALL ANY HELP EMAIL ME IM SUPER EASY OLD PERSON HERE---MY DEAL COME 1 TIME IN LIFE HERE ENJOY MY FUNNY LIST EVER SEEN ((( EVERY DAY HAVE NEW DEAL))) LETS HAVE FUN HERE DON T MISS MY LIST NO SHIP P.O.BOX ANY THING ASK SUPER WELCOME THIS COLLECTOR DREAM & RETURN WELCOME

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Permalink Reply by adam on August 12, 2018 at 4:46pm

so i brought i fake michael jackson drawing of the seller marc_at2014 in January this year via paypal how can i get my money back from this scammer?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 12, 2018 at 4:55pm

If you paid PayPal funded by a credit card, it may have buyer protection for as much as a year or more—typically at least 6 months. If they do a chargeback with PayPal, PayPal may be able to get your funds back from the seller.

Call PayPal and eBay in any case, but if you funded your PayPal by a credit card, find out what their terms are first.

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Permalink Reply by adam on August 12, 2018 at 6:09pm

thank you, if they ask for proof that it is not authentic, should i refer them to this thread? i have since brought mj items signed and worn with photo proof etc from reliable sources, since this was the first one i brought i had no idea what inwas doing regarding mj items tbh

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 12, 2018 at 6:14pm

They'll probably want authentication opinions from PSA/DNA, Beckett or JSA. The autograph will have to be seen by the company and that's probably about $100, which you won't get back most likely. 

But first find out if you have a shot at getting a refund. Maybe eBay will ask the seller to refund your money. You've tried to get a refund from the seller, I take it? What did they say if you did?

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on August 12, 2018 at 6:18pm

Steve, I think it is also worth asking the amount of money Adam paid for it.

Is it worth it?

Just consider it a "lesson learned?"

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Permalink Reply by adam on August 13, 2018 at 5:57am

thanks for the help, i paid $225, it wanst via ebay it was paypal direct, i will send a message now saying i want my money back and see how that goes down 

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Permalink Reply by wascher on August 13, 2018 at 6:49am

If you ask the seller he is just going to scoff at you, he is the actual forger.  He will claim this forum is wrong, and that nobody can tell you unless you are actually there when its signed that its a forgery.  He will go on about how the folks that do authenticate are no good or have court cases against them, and on and on.  This is his routine. 

How did you manage to buy items from him without going through eBay?

Since I track his moves I'd like to know how he's operating outside of that (we have seen him use fake hispanic profiles on FB - to do that, if there is a new one can you post it?)

Thanks.

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