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Michael Jackson drawings (Miscell inc. 'Historic portraits' and 'Disney characters')

I'm noticing a sudden influx of MJ signed Michael Jackson drawings coming on to the auction market, which seem to share the common themes of either 'portraits of historical figures' or 'Disney characters'.

Both of these themes are of course recognised from Michaels' drawings both at a young age and later in life, but it is interesting that so many new drawings are being released on to the market at the same time.

Here are some current examples:

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/32578267_collection-of-art-by-m...

Tags: Michael, disney, forgery, jackson, parr, portraits

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mj art Mickey_Cooper Owen 15 Dec 14.jpg, 54 KB
MJ art Snow White Cooper Owen_15 Dec 14.jpg, 23 KB
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Permalink Reply by Pete Bendu on January 8, 2015 at 5:06pm

Poor authentication companies....they have to deal with...

false affidavits, False provenance, false facts, fake COA's, stickers, photoshop images, laser printed autographs.

Yep, that is what they are supposed to do.

What is it that they are being paid for?

I thought it was to deal with all of the above and use some actual skill to judge the signature in question.

Ignore the affidavits, ignore the provenance, ignore everything else....make sure it's hand signed then give an opinion.

Permalink Reply by Sam Iam on January 8, 2015 at 5:15pm

Lol TPAs are supposed to authenticate the autograph not the provenance.

Again showing you're incapable

Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on January 8, 2015 at 5:22pm

There is a lot more going on today then years ago, there is big money being spent on high technical machinery to enhance autographs, copy autographs, trace autographs. Again unless you can have multiple pieces of the same autograph it is nearly impossible to detect.

This is worth it for the forger with autographs like Michael Jackson and artwork like Michael Jackson that sells for up to $30,000 each. I have seen in my hands over $500,000 worth of Michael Jackson signed artwork all at one time from 4 different sources. We are fighting a different type forger, then your nickel and dime signed photos. If we did not uncover this fraud, it would of continued and would have taken the industry for millions.

Permalink Reply by wascher on January 8, 2015 at 11:36am

I asked that he not post Prashants email address.

He will have to check with Steve Cyrkin on posting of emails. I did not check with Steve--and the emails had been up well over an hour before I showed up yesterday, and Prashant had already responded to them (I removed the address as that is someones personal identity to me, and I don't think should have been posted).

I personally don't like to see personal emails going back and forth on the forum without permission of the sender, but its not my forum. I guess I will check with Steve as well.

-w

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Permalink Reply by wascher on January 8, 2015 at 11:38am

And Prashant, know that I am not siding for or against you, just so you know that. I don't like personal emails being sent out at all. I just don't know how Steve personally handled personal email correspondences, and I will have him check in here to respond to this, so that it is not me making a decision that he has set up guidelines on.

-w

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 8, 2015 at 2:20pm

This is the policy on posting emails:

If it's a memorabilia-related business's email address, or a personal one regularly used by the business, it's generally OK to post.

If it's a personal email address, it's generally not OK to post.

If you're not sure, ask Wascher or me.

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Permalink Reply by Scott W. Arnold on January 8, 2015 at 5:37pm

Damn!!! And I thought I rambled on and on.... Scott

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Permalink Reply by Face on January 8, 2015 at 10:07am

First, I do not pretend being a spokeperson to anyone, also I never pretended to be an expert, it's actually YOUR opinion on me... nothing else. (Is it fair to say that right now "your opinion" is questionable...?!?"

It is absolutely not my job to authenticate autographs... It seems to be YOUR job... Right...?

SO, Prashant sent me 3 records to have them signed by Quincy Jones... He can send me a dozen more and I would do the same, I would never ask him the provenance or any source about his autographs. Because it's his... Not mine.

Right now, this whole story is about YOURSELF being caught in some kind of weird story:

Prashant has a COA from you, that you are willing to refund, BUT you dont have it in your database, and you pretend Prashant received it with the COA that never came from you... BUT you're willing to refund him... Ok........

Well, why I am involved in this...? Well Mr Frost you are in a public forum on a public thread where tons of people are involved... I am one of them... ;-)...

Who am I...? Be ready... Im just a Michael Jackson fan... That's it, noone else... Right, you just wrote a book to an MJ fan. What a waste of time...

PS: that Lee Thompkins COA you're all talking about is all a lie being used on eBay by those same seller who screw fans...

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Permalink Reply by Sam Iam on January 7, 2015 at 12:04pm

I'm sorry but after reading Steve's comments on PAAS I did a forum search and I can't see why any one would use their services.
No offense to Mike Frost but from what I've seen on here I just can't comprehend it