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Nirvana autographs
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Hi,
Could anyone help me authenticating these Nirvana autographs please?
This was found in a loft in Paris.
That is the only info I have.
I have also attached another picture of a record found at the same place and time which is also signed.
Any thoughts are welcome.
Thank you in advance!
Tags: Nirvana, autographs
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Permalink Reply by goodcat on
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another great story Judge... lovn it
Now I like the way this thread is going lol
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Permalink Reply by Judge Nutmeg on
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Credit goes to the legendary Del Preston for that one.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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Simon,
Before you buy one of the Nirvanas, I strongly recommend that you get these from the seller:
- A guarantee that it will pass in-person authentication by a respected expert in Nirvana or your money back. Unlike forgeries, where most can be identified from a decent photo, an autograph that looks genuine cannot fully authenticated without being seen in person. The ink, the paper, making sure it's not a copy, or copies of original autographs transferred to this album through a laser ink transfer method similarly.
- Get large crisp images. The one you posted is a screenshot apparently from a cell phone. Get large, full-size ones, or you can send the link to me privately and I'll download them if they're available. I promise not to tell anyone where it came from and I promise not to contact the seller or try to buy it myself. Ask for really big, crisp images. If the seller wants to sell it, he will be happy to do that for you.
- Review the album edition subsequent releases carefully. In Utero Special Limited Edition was released in Sept. 1993 in the US, a good half a year before Cobain died, so he could have signed it. Was the US release shipped to Europe, or was there an edition published in Europe or the UK? If so, what did it look like? When was it released? What differences in the disk and cover are there between each edition? Nirvana's last tour of Europe was February 4-March 1, 1994, not long before he died but they held about 15 concerts in Europe and several in France, so he was around to sign it, unlikely as it is.
- Get all the provenance of the albums, both of them. Who, when, where discovered, and did he find them, did he buy them from the one or ones who found them, what witnesses are there, etc. Don't forget to get the address of the loft to help confirm it, any photos of the find, etc.
- Ask yourself, why would 2 signed copies be found in a loft both forgotten by the people who got them signed? Especially since Cobain died no more than two months after he could have signed them? If two people loved Nirvana so much to haul two albums around Paris hoping and praying they could get Nirvana to sign them, how could they forget them when they moved out? Were they forcibly evicted and a sloppy crew cleaned up for them?
- It's easy for us to give opinions on autographs we know from their appearance alone and forget what's really involved in making sure an autograph is genuine. Genuine band-signed Nirvana albums have auction records from about $5,000-$10,000 and more. Before you put out anywhere near that kind of money you want to make darn sure it's real. If it's a lot less than that money, you have to ask yourself why he's selling it so cheaply.
BTW, also look at what other autographed items he's offering for sale. You can tell a lot about an autograph by the company it keeps. I love liver and onions, but if Hannibal Lecter is serving them, I'll pass.
- A guarantee that it will pass in-person authentication by a respected expert in Nirvana or your money back. Unlike forgeries, where most can be identified from a decent photo, an autograph that looks genuine cannot fully authenticated without being seen in person. The ink, the paper, making sure it's not a copy, or copies of original autographs transferred to this album through a laser ink transfer method similarly.
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Permalink Reply by marc e on
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I agree with all of steves suggestions also if the person is claiming to have direct access to the band ask him how.
the music industy is 9 degrees of sepration and most people know each other and can shoot down a lot b*llsh*tt reall quickly
kurts guitar tec sold stuff he was a great resource and knowledge
dgc or geffen wasn't a very big lable so not many really had access
I could tell u out of the nyc lable if they worked or not or had access its all trasable and I could then also check with cali also to see if there story is true
so do your home work.
when I started selling my stuff I gave notorized letters all backed up with facts that even the nirvana biggest fan website still has wrong dates on on as stuff was so fly by night back then.
rember for along time they were a under ground band and very messed up.
and price matter someone I belive posted on racc a signed pick guard wanted opinnions price 1 k, sigs were so neatly placed it was a joke.
they were a sloppy signing band and now a expensive band
cheap and real to not go hand in hand
ive posted suggested prices for them and other acts and people laugh a lot but its based on real numbers and a lot of reaearch.
to me artwork autographs posters memoribila is part of a investment portfolio if done right . do your home work
I just sold to member a 1 of a kind piece that even roger told him he never saw a real one. we both walked a way from the deal very happy after I was able to help him with a itiem of that the same band that he had I didn't like at all and it turned out to be no good as I thought.
this member has a piece that problaly can never be found again or seen again its a museum piece
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Too late
Both items already sold and in the mail
Simon bought one and the other is on its way to the USA
Thanks for the concerns, but I have no concerns about them
And YES.... "cheap and real" can and DO sometimes go hand in hand.... FACT
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What's written above Kurt's name on the one that's for Marie. And who wrote it?
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That's the one for Louise. I'm asking about the other one, the one for Marie.
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Right, Steve! Yes! What on earth is that inscription? That is not Dave's writing and he had the silver pen.
What is that above Kurt's name?
I mean, just wtf with these.
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I don't know Nirvana autographs well. I do have a pretty good sense of smell. Finding two Nirvana albums abandoned in a loft in Paris smells suspicious to me. Especially since Cobain could only have signed them a couple months before his death.
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