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Permalink Reply by Steve on January 7, 2016 at 7:26pm

They used to bring in JSA and do mass authentications at a local place. They recently stopped that practice and now they ask you to send them items and they will send them to PSA.Funny how PressPass has many PSA authenticated items that don't seem to look quite the same as all others do.

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Permalink Reply by James on January 10, 2016 at 9:10pm

I'm just now reading this Sunday night. But that just sounds so shady. And the thing is...PressPass could even charge you LESS than what PSA would charge you in order to entice you to go through PressPass because I'm sure PressPass gets a big discount from PSA. For example, PressPass could charge a person maybe 80% of the price you would normally pay PSA. That is because PressPass probably gets about a 50% discount from PSA. So PP would still make a profit on the deal.

I say this because I recently bought a high-end item through a big dealer, but the item had no TPA's LOA to back it up. However, the dealer was promoting that they were soon having JSA come to their store to authenticate many items. The dealer agreed to have JSA authenticate the item (a baseball) when JSA came in for a visit. It was a baseball that would normally cost $300 to authenticate, but the dealer told me that JSA would only charge them $150; so that's all the dealer charged me for the JSA LOA.

So I am guessing 50% discounts for dealers might be the norm, possibly...if they are a big client.

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Permalink Reply by Gratefulphish on January 8, 2016 at 2:56pm

That really sucks, but it goes to show just how worthless PSA QOs really are.  I might also be suspicious of them flunking something so that they could tip off someone else to buy an item like this.  Nothing seems to low to go.

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Permalink Reply by Full Time Flipper on January 8, 2016 at 3:00pm

they are in a prime position for that i wouldnt put it past them or at least some rogue employees

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 10, 2016 at 12:57pm

It's hard to miss a Mantle. Got a pic of it?

I wonder how often QAs are done by cell phone? If you don't zoom in to confirm your opinion, you can miss things, especially if it's a signed photo.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 10, 2016 at 1:49pm

That's slowly signed? That looks pretty good to me, but I don't know Mantle as well as others here. 

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Permalink Reply by Mike P on January 10, 2016 at 1:55pm

Honestly in my opinion that Mantle looks authentic. Maybe the marker used was running out of ink when originally signed or maybe fading has occurred. The rest of the autograph looks typical Mantle

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 10, 2016 at 2:10pm

I didn't know they certified ones that good. The high-volume GAI Mantle forgeries I'm familiar with look like these, which I became aware of in about 2009:

http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/the-gai-mantle-dimag...

It's really scary if they can be signed that close in volume.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 10, 2016 at 3:44pm

Wow. Have they been discussed here?

Permalink Reply by Mike P on January 10, 2016 at 2:13pm

Definitely one of the closer-to-authentic ones that GAI has passed, at least from what Ive seen.

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Permalink Reply by Mike P on January 10, 2016 at 2:17pm

Do you have a clearer scan? I tried to blow up the image but it is very blurry.

Anyway, I zoomed in on the last name M and on second thought it does look like it could have been signed a bit slowly. Hard to tell with the scan.

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Permalink Reply by Mike P on January 10, 2016 at 2:35pm

The second one definitely doesnt look authentic. To my eye, the first one looks fine at first but once you look closer at the other letters you can see some signs of slowness. Also you make the argument that the t in Mantle is atypical. Scary to see how good some forgers are.

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