Ray Charles signature study (just a start...)

I posted this earlier on another Ray Charles post but everyone got sucked into another matter.

I took two signed contract signatures as well as a 1988 signed 5x6 photo from Ray Charles Enterprises. We all know the full name cursive signatures are surely not real and I have seen dozens of these 5x6 photos of Ray signed with the fake full name signature. But this one, is different then the rest, the letter that came with it from Ray Charles's office states that they are sorry for running out the larger versions so please accept this smaller one instead. Is this Ray's actual signature? His real signature? I mean, it's on several contracts I have seen over the years and to me, it's looks like a blind mans interpretation of "Ray Charles". I personally feel Ray could sign more then block letters, he wasn't born blind and surely he could write some, or at least draw or doodle and I am sure he had at least seen writing so unlike Stevie Wonder he had a clue what writing even was and how it looked so I feel he could have taught himself over the years. idk, if you post that these are from a helper can you please post who signed his name like this, and also how you are sure of this? Thanks, and if someone could get Roger Epperson involved that would be great to try to work together and put together a solid Ray Charles signature (or lack there of) study.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 11, 2017 at 12:11pm

Roger Epperson, the leading modern music specialist authenticator: roger@rogerepperson.com

Permalink Reply by Phil Spilsbury on July 11, 2017 at 12:26pm

Ah okay I'll take a look. Not come across him before although I might have seen his name in this forum elsewhere. I don't really buy autographs which is why I don't know people like Roger. I only collect autographs I took face-to-face myself or personally know the person who did. My interest is in the music, history and era my collections come from. Buying autographs looks like a bit of a mine-field. 

Permalink Reply by Phil Spilsbury on July 11, 2017 at 12:07pm

I like the way they've done the video with Donna. The collection I'm collating and selling some of is owned by the person who got the autographs face-to-face. I've been collating the stories to put in a book for him but actually doing a video story is quite good, i like that they've done. I've no idea what an unassisted Ray Charles autographs is worth when the the worlds of things like ebay are packed full of Ray Charles fakes. I was disappointed in Julien's response which I found very suspect but I appreciate its a rare one to authenticate and sell. I guess when you can't see to write then its not really an autograph as we know it, plus you don't know if the environment was quiet and un-rushed, plus understand what surface the autographs is done on. lot's of factors might affect a blind mans autograph. Mine was taken on a quiet afternoon with just Ray+manager/assistant and my friend and his friend. So just four people and not hurried. 

Permalink Reply by sling on November 16, 2017 at 5:26pm
Permalink Reply by Chad B on November 16, 2017 at 6:29pm

I highly doubt that was signed by the Ray Charles we are thinking of. A Ray Charles may have signed that but it wasn't the blind musician we all know.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 16, 2017 at 6:31pm

Absurd.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 16, 2017 at 10:23pm

Ray Charles didn't write cursive.

Permalink Reply by Rodrigo García on April 20, 2018 at 11:31pm

Hello,

I have this PlayBoy magazine in Braille signed by Ray Charles. I know is authentic because it was given by him to my father in law in 1993. He asked him an autograph and Ray Charles did not have a paper to sign so he used his magazine

Permalink Reply by goodcat on April 21, 2018 at 12:42am

If you read this whole thread, I'm sure it may give you reason to doubt your signature is authentic

Permalink Reply by Rodrigo García on April 21, 2018 at 1:11am

The thing is I know is authentic. My father in law was present when he signed the magazine

Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on April 21, 2018 at 7:34pm

Lucky you. I don't believe a word my father-in-law tells me. 

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on April 21, 2018 at 3:53am

Rodrigo,

I hate to say it, but that was signed by Ray's assistant, Vernon Troupe. I have one very similar. 

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