Authenticity is Everything
Signed Beatles photo
Being auctioned. These look like classic autopen examples to me. Or am I missing something?!
https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/c06763cc33a6451cb243f...
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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on
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I was getting responses but nothing after this last image was sent.
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Permalink Reply by michelle on
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All items listed for auction by Halifax Mill Auctioneers are sold as seen and it is the bidder's responsibility to ensure they are wholly satisfied with an item, whether this be its provenance, condition, weight or size, in advance of the sale's commencement and ultimately before any bids are placed.
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Permalink Reply by Bruce Juice on
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It's becoming obvious that they know it's fake and won't remove it because they are greedy and/or don't want to admit to a mistake. Wish this site could warn bidders in the UK as someone is going to pay WAY more than this is worth.
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they are a small provincial auction house. I had never heard of them before. I suppose they couldnt believe their luck
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I can. The very low estimate for such an oversized item, were the signatures authentic, might well be tipping off those that don't already recognize the poster/photo to do some poking.
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Last thing I heard was "You might be right though." I had optimistically hoped, with the final images that show the same sigs with just a slight movement in placement for all, the item would be pulled and a collector spared. Between the last images and the others, there appears no other possibility than facsimile. The rapidity of the drying of the print is also a hurdle as Findbooks pointed out. As I mentioned, the low estimate for a 16x20 is a huge tip-off.
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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on
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I just noticed this portion of the auction description, which gives the impression that another signed example of this photo appeared on the 11/9 episode of BBC Antiques Roadshow.
*The photograph itself has come to be one that the band and Brian Epstein used and possibly reproduced to a degree through 1963, so as you might consider, there could well be a few fans out there that might hold another true and authentic signed version of a facsimilie copy, of Stan's original photograph.. and it turns out that the BBC's Antiques Roadshow had just that, within the programme's most recent episode, on Sunday 9th November! Here is an iPlayer link to the episode where expert Raj Bisram gives the Scottish family in this case, his view on the piece.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002mbhc/antiques-roadshow-se...
In a recent itv News article regarding this item, it says:
…Now the original individually hand-signed shot is to be auctioned in Halifax, West Yorkshire, two weeks after it was featured on Antiques Roadshow, where its value was estimated at £3-5,000.
https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2025-11-19/signed-beatles-photo-t...
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"...so as you might consider, there could well be a few fans out there that might hold another true and authentic signed version of a facsimilie copy,.."
Was that paragraph there yesterday? I don't remember it. Antiques Roadshow had another facsimile or the smaller supposedly hand signed version Epstein was given? I can't see those links where I am. Perhaps I am misunderstanding something. I am very distracted at the moment. But I would not bid on this item.
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I’m not able to view it either. The itv News article gives the impression that it’s the exact same item.
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Permalink Reply by crazyrabbits23 on
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTiD2NiH8Ps
Segment starts at the 10-minute mark. It's definitely not the same item.
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Thank you, crazyrabbits. It is indeed a different item. So the appraiser is aware of the prevalence of facsimile signatures, and is still of the opinion that those facsimiles are real. Someone at Halifax Mill Auctioneers saw that Antiques Roadshow segment showing the same facsimile signatures, agrees with the appraiser, and updated the auction description with an opinion that both sets of identical facsimile signatures are authentic.
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Despite different ink colors with the same exact signatures. Alarming, not "amazing."
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