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Sone Elton John signed new CD singles not passing 3rd party authentication

FYI, in Real Autograph Collectors Club group on Facebook a person posted that Beckett and PSA are saying the Elton John signed CD single art card from the UK is not authentic. There is debate on how many he signed, may have been signed by others or used autopen.

Here is link to the discussion over there https://www.facebook.com/groups/955090951189857?multi_permalinks=47...

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Permalink Reply by Dan on October 14, 2021 at 1:23pm

Keep in mind that until this 'Cold Heart' release, getting Elton's autograph from an official source was incredibly expensive (there is a 5K print available on his website, and has been sitting there for a few years now)

https://store.eltonjohn.com/*/Fine-Art/Limited-Edition-Fine-Art-Print-Signed-by-Elton-John-Terry-O-Neill-16x20/69WL1BHV000

So it was obvious that for 99p we were not going to get his best signature, but in terms of provenance this is as good as it gets. As long as you got one to add it to your collection and not resell, you should really not care about what PSA say.

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Permalink Reply by James D on October 14, 2021 at 1:37pm

Certs from PSA, JSA, Beckett etc mean next to nothing... I used to submit things to them all the time in the early 2010s and I had dozens of autos (all of which were signed in front of me) not pass their authentication process. It's all BS.

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Permalink Reply by Steve on October 14, 2021 at 2:16pm

Here is a photo of a hand signed CD from my collection from Elton John. This was limited and given out to people at a viewing party hosted by Elton in West Hollywood. The people in attendance, each table had 2 books and this autographed CD at their reserved seat at the table.

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Permalink Reply by R Buck on October 14, 2021 at 8:59pm

I noticed that many of the new cards had the "E" more distinct than his traditional "L". Authenticating could be an issue. Mine--in person--from 1982 has the "L".

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Permalink Reply by Ally McIntyre on October 14, 2021 at 10:21pm

This is an embroidered signature on an officially licensed polo shirt fron Eltons 2003 world tour. I think most of the signed cards are close to this so I am not worried in the slightest

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Permalink Reply by Dan on October 14, 2021 at 11:47pm

Looks like a fake to me (joking!)

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Permalink Reply by Mikex on October 15, 2021 at 12:55am

Yes, all the signed CDs are fake, so I will give you your money back.

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Permalink Reply by DannyGraceland on October 15, 2021 at 6:41am

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Permalink Reply by michelle on October 15, 2021 at 12:00pm

I have just made the mistake of looking on ebay and if I was Elton I would burst into tears at all the people trying to cash in . Somone has 4 copies for sale. I am surprised that any stars sign any more

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Permalink Reply by Jor-El on October 15, 2021 at 12:31pm

They don't do it out of the goodness of their hearts, the stars have a business motive too. They just sent us a newsletter that Elton is now #1 in the UK, which was clearly the goal of the signed offer. Same reason I suspect that Coldplay only has a US offer of signed albums.

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Permalink Reply by crazyrabbits23 on October 25, 2021 at 1:26pm

It's now part of the business model. If anything, I would think that the frequency of autopen signatures (justified or not) would have reduced substantially due to the fact that many stars were stuck at home for the better part of a year, and didn't have to deal with tours, travel time or rehearsals.

You can bet that if McCartney wanted another #1 record and doing a couple hours worth of autos (just with initials) would help give him a sales bump, he'd absolutely do it.