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STUDY: Jerry Lee Lewis - TTM real or not real

Steve asked me to start a new thread since some were having a lot of issues with regards to whether or not the through the mail autographs of Jerry Lee Lewis are real or not. I will post some examples of what we have been getting recently and some know in person examples. These TTM signatures are not cheap. You have to pay $50 for them to his box office box. The question is are they real or not. Roger has said that he has never seen Mr. Lewis sign this way and it looks to perfect - like a woman's signature.

Please post your thoughts here and examples.

thanks

Mark

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on May 7, 2014 at 12:06pm

Thanks for confirming.

It leads me to suspect whoever handles the mail may have placed it there to indicate where he should sign.

Also, is the dedication written in some other pen underneath and then gone over in marker?

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Permalink Reply by John Carpenter on May 7, 2014 at 12:16pm

Yikes. Good eye. Certainly looks that way.

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Permalink Reply by A.B. on May 7, 2014 at 12:19pm

Yes, it seems like the "To Andre" is written in ballpoint underneath the black marker.

May be for JLL to overwrite afterwards, or may be JLL (or whoever has written the dedication) wasn´t satisfied with the ballpoint on the sleeve and then wrote over it with the marker.

If someone has to put an "x" on an item for JLL to sign...then he must be in bad shape, don´t you think?!

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on May 7, 2014 at 7:35pm

This just keeps looking badder by the day for the argument that the TTM's were authentic. Even once the signatures began to be questioned. I sure hope at 100 bucks, that they will now give authentic signatures, but i guess only time will tell. This is a sad situation all around that this would happen.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Viola on May 7, 2014 at 10:30am

I think its real and I think now the previous TTMs were def not. This looks close to the IPs I got way back when. Did u send this in before you knew about the price increase to 100.00? (note the sqiggly line under the inscription. A sign that was secretarial, but the sig looks real)

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Permalink Reply by A.B. on May 7, 2014 at 10:41am

Yes, I have sent this before I learned that he now charges $100.

Shipped it out about 4 weeks ago.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on July 19, 2014 at 6:03pm

The black Sharpie did not begin to write immediately on the "J". "To Andre" appears to have either been written after he signed his name or it was prewritten.

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Permalink Reply by Mark Roberts on May 7, 2014 at 10:48am

So what is the deal now.. if we send in an item with $50 will we get a secretarial or will we get the real deal. Will we get our item sent back asking for $100? What do we do about the secretarials that we got recently?? Questions and more questions…

Mark

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Permalink Reply by John Carpenter on May 7, 2014 at 12:01pm

Exacly my questions also Mark. Now we have a person who got a 'real' autograph for 50.00 (congrats A.B.), but what about those of us who didnt? Do we send in another 50.00 saying we think we got ripped off by the first one for 50.00 or do we send in 100.00 knowing we probably will get a real one, but in reality are spending 150.00 for a real one. I doubt they will ever admit to those earlier TTMs being secs. They created this mess and its sad.

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on May 7, 2014 at 7:39pm

I can certainly understand still wanting his signature, but with more and more evidence gathering that the items that were sent in were ghost signed, i personally would be ticked off enough over this matter that i wouldnt send a thing and would demand my money back. Even 50 bucks is alot of money, honestly i was shocked he was asking that much for his signature. And 50 bucks is to hard to earn nowadays. And if this thread hadnt been created, i can only guess that the ghost signer (if there is one), would continue collecting money and signing on behalf of JLL. I guess nothing is for sure yet, but the evidence is really beginning to add up to the negative.

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Permalink Reply by Chad B on May 7, 2014 at 8:27pm

Hey Carl,

What evidence do you believe is really beginning to add up? I'm not trying to be a wise guy or anything. I'm trying to see what people are talking and continue to shape my opinion.

Some of the inscriptions and extra writing is hard for me to figure out. I'll start with something simple, the word "to." On some of the items the the t looks like a 7 and on others it looks like a simple blockish letter. The two different style "t's" are nothing alike. The likely explanations are--1. Jerry signs the "T" as a 7 when writing in cursive and the other style when printing the inscription. 2. Someone else signs one or both of the styles.

At this time I feel much more confident about the "t's" that look like a 7. As someone else mentioned, this is what Elvis' "T" often looked like and it may be part of the way the men were taught in school as they were contemporaries.