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Permalink Reply by M. on December 4, 2020 at 2:53pm

When these first went up a week ago at the sale price, they had the International option too, though they were limited to one-per.

There could be a bunch of reasons why they don't do more international. Like Jor-El already said, the biggest reason is probably licensing/distribution deals. Most music/merchandise is distributed/licensed based on regional/territorial agreements, which is one of the reasons that merchandise used to include digital copies for US orders only. It's also why we see so many region-locked deals like these or the UK exclusive Queen CDs. I'm sure selling items internationally also causes more logistics problems: international payment methods tend to have higher processing fees compared to domestic ones, shipping is more complicated (slower and more paperwork) which can mean more lost packages, and it may result in more unhappy customers (due to lost packages, import duties, slow fulfillment) due to things outside of their control.

That said, none of this really explains why they haven't been releasing these in her UK (or other) store as well. The only thing I can guess would be if it has something to do with Billboard charting rules about international sales counting different, but I'm not away of anything like that.

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Permalink Reply by M. on December 4, 2020 at 4:18pm

I've never once been worried about Taylor actually signing the items before, but yeah I'm a little twitchy on this one. Based on the duration and price of this drop, I have to assume it could hit 100k sales especially with the release of the Disney+ special. This seems unbelievable for an album that came out in July.

That said, these are supposed to ship in 2-3 weeks. That at least opens up a little more time to sign/package these. Presumably they want all of these to ship within the same week for charting reasons, so my guess is nobody will see much movement on these until the latter part of that period.

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Permalink Reply by M. on December 4, 2020 at 5:51pm

The last big batch of Swifts were fine, and they said she sold something like 50k that weekend. Similarly, Gomez (who I still consider to be a big name, but I don't know if you do) was good with her stuff. I don't know how long each drop was on sale, but she had several re-stocks over several weeks and everything came through okay. Everything I've seen has shown that Taylor actually seems to care about her fanbase (as least as much as a super-celebrity can), and as Rich said she is also very careful with her brand, so I fully expect her to stay on trend and for these to be real. That said, this is UMG and so I won't be shocked if there are issues. It's still early in the month, but I'm thinking this is going to be my last preorder for the year, so I'm hoping to end on a high note.

Plus, this is topsy-turny world so who knows what to expect. I remember a bunch of people saying that Gaga was always good (wasn't), Grande was good (wasn't), Halsey was good (mix, though maybe not her fault), and Lovato was bad (actually signed the stuff that got fulfilled).

Edit: Also to add, they sent out tons of free signed CDs to people who were waiting on their orders, and they were good. So between the free ones (which some people still complained about, but that's a whole 'nother conversation), the ones to the indie record stores, and the website releases, she's shown no aversion to signing stuff.

She's also still in a feud (I think) with Scooter. So while she probably wouldn't know (or care), there's also the possibility that her people see the flack his top two artists are taking for fake autographs, and see this as an opportunity to yet again show that he's [allegedly] a scumbag.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on December 4, 2020 at 7:48pm

I would be very interested to see any evidence of autopen signatures.  Until then, this bickering is pointless.

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Permalink Reply by Brian on December 4, 2020 at 7:52pm

agreed . she isn’t doing auto pen. i have like 10 of them and all look great . no auto pen with her. she is the real deal 

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Permalink Reply by Bob Peel on December 5, 2020 at 2:21pm

International back in stock 

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Permalink Reply by Chris Furness on December 5, 2020 at 3:10pm

Thanks Bob!

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Permalink Reply by Karl Prime on December 5, 2020 at 11:23pm

Thanks

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Permalink Reply by SigninginOH on December 10, 2020 at 6:07am

Be on the lookout for “Evermore” and signed CDs. She just broke the internet again with her surprise release tomorrow 

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Permalink Reply by M. on December 13, 2020 at 9:27pm

Is there anyone else whose order was shipped on the 8th of December, but still hasn't had FedEx actually receive the package? Mine's been stuck at LABEL CREATED - Shipment information sent to Fedex.

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Permalink Reply by SigninginOH on December 14, 2020 at 5:18am

Mine still is 

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Permalink Reply by damageinc777 on December 14, 2020 at 7:14am

Me too. Funny thing is my label was created in Ferndale, Michigan. Which is like 20 miles from me. Wondering how the cd's are even originating from there.

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