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Comment by joed miller on February 24, 2012 at 11:00am

Aloha- here is a 99%finished listing of all the autographs in my Colby collection and a short descrption of each.  I am hoping to find a means to sell the entire lot does anyone have any ideas on value or want to make me an offer??  www.hulahips.com/bainbridgecolbyletters  & www.hulahips.com/bainbridgecolbyspeechs   Any help would be appreciated and I am not against if someone finds me buyers for particular documents sharing the sales price with them.

Comment by Brad on February 19, 2012 at 6:30pm

Nice Jeff thats a real American hero for u!!

Comment by Jeffery Kite on February 19, 2012 at 6:28pm

Friday's mail brought me the autograph of 1971 Medal of Honor recipient, John Baca. Mr. Baca received the MOH for his actions from February 10, 1970, where being under enemy fire, covered a grenade with his steel helmet, then laid on top of the helmet, absorbing all the shrapnel and sustaining serious injuries. He saved the lives of 8 men that day, and his company was able to carry on and defeat the enemy that day. Thank you so much for your service, Mr. Baca.

Comment by Jeffery Kite on January 5, 2012 at 7:08pm

Today's mail brought me the autograph of Fred Haise, Jr., the pilot of the ill-fated Apollo 13 mission. His story is truly remarkable.

Comment by joed miller on December 14, 2011 at 3:25am
Aloha-- I know I am boring everyone but i am finding history to be quite enlightening. For instance tonight I found documents between Mr. Colby and Mr. Nielson that brings up the "BIRTHER .." issue such as has been such a hot topic with Obama. However in this 1932 correspondence it is in reference to Mr. Hoover. Seems that petty issues just seem to never disappear and no one ever learns from the past. Has anyone ever heard of this topic before?? If no is it not a very interesting comparasion to the times of today andthe past???
Comment by joed miller on December 13, 2011 at 1:22am

Aloha- here is an odd bit of history that I have managed to piece together that seems just to odd of a coincidence to not have a connection. In the early thirties through the 40s there was a large surpreme court case involving the Curtis Candy company and the development of the Baby Ruth Candy bar. On May 7th 1932 an attorney by the name of Irwin N. Walker in Chicago began writing to Mr. Colby about a Mr. Ten Broek. He was writing pumping for information on Mr. Ten Broek useing the Mercantile Adjuster as his reference point.  What is never mentioned is that Mr. Walker was also representing the Curtis Candy Company in its supreme ourt case forthe recipe of the Baby Ruth Energy Bar.  I have also documented that at the same period of time that Mr. Ten Broek had several episodes (breakdowns) which left his wife in charge of trying to legally pursue and un the family business.  Coincidentially the family company was Ten Broek Asssorted Chocolates of St. Louis.  In October 1930 Mrs Ten Broek had written to Mr. Colby in reference to her husbnds breakdowns and the fact that she was in dire need of a loan of $3,000.00 "immediately to buy chocolate and nuts for their candy to fullfill their holidays orders.  It just seemed to me that this is a rather odd coincidence of affairs that Mr. Walker an unknown to Mr. Colby was writing him during this period of time and makes me wonder if the case as noted was not really about the people claiming to have bought the recipe from "someone.." and having sold it to the Curtis candy company of Chicago during the same period of time.  To me it would appear that Mr. Walker KNEW who the "somebody.." was and that it was probablt Mr. or Mrs Ten Broek who developedthe bar intheir business and possiblt sold it to cover expenses and that this point was never brought to light inthe Supreme court case The Curtiss Candy Company, Petitioner, v. Earl W. Clark, Director, ... by IRWIN N WALKER and U.S. Supreme Court.  I do not know but this seems to be a "History Mystery..."  is anyone familiar with it or the potential that the Ten Broeks might actually be the "true.." developers ofthe Baby Ruth Energy bar in their line of assorted chocolates??  Am I just having a moment or does it appear odd to any of you true historians that these letters are so close together in Mr. Colbys documents I have??  It just seems oddly coincidental to me.... whohoo conspiracy theory over the Baby Ruth bar again after all these decades!!!

Comment by joed miller on December 7, 2011 at 10:53pm

Aloha-- wowwwwwwwwwww unbelievable you went through the list. My sincerest thanks for doing so.  Now if only someone would actually show an interest.. lol... I have been receiving calls and emails from several institutions including the library of congress but of course they are interested in donations while myself am hoping to pay a few bills for my time and efforts..lol... 40 plus years of carrying these around the world with me should be worth something... lol...

Comment by Jeffery Kite on December 7, 2011 at 10:26pm

Alright, Mr. Joed, it took me quite sometime to look up all these people for you in my trusty Sanders Autograph Guide (shameless plug for you, Steve!) and found only 3 autograph prices listed. Just in case anyone looking on here does not know about the abbreviations I am about to use, they are: ALS - Autograph Letter Signed (a hand written letter that is signed by the author of the letter,) LS/DS - Letter Signed/Document signed (typed letter signed by the author of the letter OR an official document signed by the person of interest,) and Sig - Signature (just a plan signature on single piece of paper or cut out from a letter or official document.)

Bainbridge Colby: ALS =$42, LS/DS = $30, Sig = $10

Henry Morganthau, Jr.: ALS = $145, LS/DS = $65, Sig = $35

Charles M. Schwab: ALS: $1,150, LS/DS = $247, Sig = $102

Hope this helps you out and gives you some sort of an idea of a starting point, like you were asking for. Take care, and good luck selling this fine collection off. Great story, and great find all those years ago! Thanks for sharing. I'm going to go through my neighbor's trash now and see if I can't find some history! :) Just kidding! LOL

Comment by joed miller on November 29, 2011 at 7:32pm

Aloha all-- as is probably quite obvious i have no clue as to how to deal with this massive collection and as i have been told it is not of huge monetary value. but even at that i do not have a clue what is considered a large monetary amount when dealing with so many papers.  does anyone have any advice on whether they think i should ebay the entire lot,  or pull out the individual items i note on other websites and sell them individually at auction in ebay.  Also if i was to simply clean everything up and put it in boxs what would be considered a fair starting value?? i know it is impossible to get an exact value to start with but i was kind of thinking of starting at $1,000.00 but that may be to much??  I really have no clue other than what i have seen on the net at auction.  Also is it not a truth that the items i see on the net such as the cards with mr. colbys and mr. shouses name on them with asking prices of 799 to 999 each will be considerably affected if suddenly 300 or more dated checks with beautiful full signitures of Mr. Colby and the other signitures ofthe people he paid significantly lower the value of said autographs??  In other words would it would not be in mine or anyones interests to release all the Colby autographs i have.  In fact I believe what i am going to do with the majority of them is to give them out to my young nieces and nephews or possibly donate them to the colleges he was affiliated with but i will only set a few in the auction or sale,  the rest i will gift away to folks i know will just hold them as neat items to have.  otherwise i would assume i'd just be biting my own toes off.... i just want to do the right thing after saving this stuff from destruction 40 years ago and hopefully help with my wife and my current health issues... thanks for the chat i hope we can all keep it up and if you see some item i have that would be of interest to you please let me know and i am sure we can work out something very resonable that will help out n both ends.  heck i realize that some of the items that may be of interest to a collector of particular eras might be only worth about what the usps charges these days to ship, lol... sadly to the Calvin collector i have already framed and given the two letters i had signed by Pres Coolidge to my nephew and niece in Ok. on their bdays this past year.  In fact i actually gifted all the Presidents signitures to nieces and nephews.  I do still have a few signed by men who eventually became Presidents or after they were and had gone back to the private sector.  Well i will get back to work on at least listingthese things and boxing the collection up.  This is a nice place and I appreciate each of your kind assistence.   when u get to hawaii look me up for sure, i always have room for friends...  

Comment by joed miller on November 29, 2011 at 4:24pm

well in particular so far names such as /jouett shouse, mr. colby, mark sullivan, joseph tumulty, silzer, sulzer, isador straus, owen young, everett sanders just to name a few that i have noticed on multiple sites all  not as relevant as mine or just simple signitures on blank cards for anywhere from 400 to a grand a piece. i realize i cant get those prices if i sell the entire collection but can you possibly offer some guidence as to a value i could set on the collection or who might auction it or if i should just ebay it all???  by the way thank u for replying. 

 

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