"Steve, I didn't originally intend to look at the "Billie" but when you asked if I'd looked at the first name I offered to make a "quick" comparison between the OP and the examples sold by RR. I did this and posted my…"
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"That's fine. I cannot see it myself but that's been clear for quite some time and these things can't be proved one way or the other, unless there is some evidence that cannot be refuted (e.g. the autograph is on something that…"
"I actually looked at all of them and was being a bit cautious when I mentioned 20. There are probably nearer to 50. I'm not enough of a technical wizard to copy them all over, at least not within a realistic time frame. "
"Seems cheap but I guess it isn't exactly pretty and that was ten years ago."
"The point I was making about the fakes I've bought is just that I know how hard it can be to accept when people - whether professionals or fellow collectors - tell you that they don't think the autograph you've bought is real. I once…"
"The Strange Fruit follows a lot more of the "rules" than yours.
The general lack of "looping" of the "i" s (the second one in Billie" does have one).
The height of the "l"s in Billie.
The shape of the…"
"I've explained where the extra loops are (e.g. the "i" s and the e). The thing is that the so-called abnormal examples I've pointed to follow the "rules" much better than your example.
At the end of the day you can…"
"Thanks. A listing price of $8 and a final auction result of $322 doesn't inspire confidence. The market usually speaks so unless the item was listed such that those in the know didn't see it the final sales price has to raise major alarm…"
"All the factors you mention shouldn't affect the fundamentals of an autograph. Why would a different surface, different resistance or spacing constraints cause extra loops for instance?
When I have to sign a slippery electronic screen with my…"
"Where does this information come from and what does it prove? What price did it make?"
"I'm replying to comments that Ryan made to the effect that 1. The seller wouldn't try to sell anything he didn't think was real for the sake of his reputation. 2. The item was only listed for two days before Ryan bought it and had 15…"
"Getting back to Steve's question about the "Billie" part of the OP, I have compared it to about 20 of the RR sold lots and I have to say it is actually even worse than the "Holiday" part.
The main issues I see at first…"
"My instant reaction is that the surname is certainly OK, even if it looks a bit odd. Most importantly, my self-proclaimed four "rules" are met as far as I can see. There could be the tiniest of loops on the "a" but you do see…"
"He may have but is this really likely? I cannot believe he wouldn't have checked past auction prices at RR/Heritage or at least the price of Billie's currently listed and sold on eBay. "
"Steve, I decided to concentrate on the surname because that it is generally more consistent. I figured that if the surname doesn't look right there is not much point in looking at the first name as well. I can have a quick look at the first…"
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- Mainly better quality items with an emphasis on female leading ladies of the 20s to 60s. Some rock & pop too.
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- Too difficult to decide.
- You can ask anyone living or dead for their autograph. Who would it be?
- Jesus
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- At 10:42pm on April 25, 2014,
geraldzheng said…
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