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Question about EXPENSIVE PURCHASED I MADE...Traveling Wilbury's, Led Zeppelin

Okay folks...aside from being one of many taken by Bryan Slaven and Autograph Central years ago, I purchased about 5 albums from a guy from L.A. His name was David Dettman, and he had a company called GENUINE AUTOGRAPH.com

Of course, that's nowhere to be found now. He also worked at a place called Paper Image in Canoga Park, CA. Also nowhere to be found.

I remember when I purchased the albums from him...around $900 each...he was sweating a lot, and super nervous. I should've taken the hint...that that was not a good sign. But you know how it is. You hold a Wilbury's album...signed by the late Roy Orbison and George Harrison...as well as Tom Petty, Jeff Lynne and Bob Dylan (with his trademark BEST WISHES)...you have no doubt they are real.

Now, here's the interesting thing. These albums all came with the nicest letter of authenticity I've ever seen, from a guy named DONALD FRANGIPANI. It's stamped nicely, with a seal thingy, complete description and date he examined the item -- and he still has a website up and looks like he's a big deal.

Can anybody shed light on either of these two guys (Frangipani or David Dettman).

Thanks.

I'll attach pictures in the next few days.

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Comment by A.B. on December 12, 2011 at 2:39am: Frangipani?!

Then the sigs are most likely not authentic, I´m afriad.

Comment by Fuddjcal on December 12, 2011 at 9:19am: Only the biggest dummy FDE&/or scam artist from Operation Bullpen Fame....The guy "that started it all" (Rubberstamping every autograph he sees for $$$$. Also, Christopher Moral ASS has called himself The Donald Fryingpangianni protogege and learned "a lot" from him.

Watch the HBO Sports Special from sevral years ago and read Operation Bullpen to find out more about his handy work. He is currently on E-bays banned list and has been for sometime. He tried to sue PSA, Richard Simon and many others with-out success....mostly because you will NEVER see an authentic Item bearing his seal & letter. He is a rubberstamper for the forgery industry.

Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 12, 2011 at 11:29pm: Guaranteed Autograph (David Dettman) is a huge concern. We haven't let him advertise in Autograph Collector since about 2005 (would have to look up the exact year.

As for Don Frangipani, he's the favorite authenticator of Myron Ross/Heroes and Legends, and used by Antiquities and others of concern. No one has been on eBay's banned authenticator list as far as I know. Since the Operation Bullpen days.

Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 18, 2012 at 7:34pm: Rachel, I'm sorry. I meant to say Genuine Autographs, not Guaranteed Autographs. David Dettman owns Paper Image, a printing company, right?

Genuine Autographs advertised when I was just starting to realize how big a problem forgeries were among dealers, including some who advertised. But I just checked and it turns out the reason we kicked them out of Autograph Collector was because he didn't pay his bills and owed us for months of advertising...thousands of dollars. About a year later as I recall, a reader came to us asking for help because Dettman sold him forgeries. We tried to help, but never could connect with David.

I just looked at an ad Guaranteed Autographs ran on page 69 of our March 2005 issue, and unfortunately it's loaded with forgeries. Yes, even the band-signed Doors album, Jim Morrison and all.

Comment by BallroomDays67 on February 18, 2012 at 8:39pm: When you get a chance, would you mind posting a pic of the Doors album?

I'm sorry to read this, Josh.

Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 18, 2012 at 8:48pm: It's a Doors photo, sorry. But I'll scan the ad in and post it.

Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 18, 2012 at 9:04pm: Ballroom,

It's hard to tell from a scan of the magazine, but here it is. We have the original file, but it's in the warehouse on an old computer. I can get it if necessary, but be patient.

Here's the scan at 600 dpi:

Comment by BallroomDays67 on February 18, 2012 at 9:24pm: Thanks for posting it so quickly. I appreciate it but, unless someone else wants to see it, you don't have to bother with the original file. It doesn't look authentic to me either.

Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 18, 2012 at 9:48pm: Rachel Bloom closed her account and deleted her comments supporting David Dettman and Genuineautographs.com. I wonder why?

Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 18, 2012 at 9:50pm: I want to make it clear that genuineautographs.com (which appears to not be an active website anymore) is or was in Los Angeles and is not the same company as genuine-autographs.com, which is in the UK and owned by Greig MacArthur.

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