Sone Elton John signed new CD singles not passing 3rd party authentication

FYI, in Real Autograph Collectors Club group on Facebook a person posted that Beckett and PSA are saying the Elton John signed CD single art card from the UK is not authentic. There is debate on how many he signed, may have been signed by others or used autopen.

Here is link to the discussion over there https://www.facebook.com/groups/955090951189857?multi_permalinks=47...

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Permalink Reply by Bob on October 24, 2021 at 11:54pm

Does anyone have a reply from Elton John's website confirming this is real?

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Permalink Reply by PFCollector on October 25, 2021 at 1:15am

It doesn't matter what the website says. They'll lie anyway if they were fake. They're not going to admit they sold fake autographs. Many record companies have obviously done it and then lied.

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Permalink Reply by DeezNutz on October 25, 2021 at 12:31pm

yup!

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Permalink Reply by Stephen Woods on October 25, 2021 at 2:18am

Yes, I did. Also, you just know that Elton is not the sort of person to sell non genuine items.

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Permalink Reply by 5816nick on October 25, 2021 at 2:25am

UMG are well know to sell Fake items though and UMG own EMI !

My Signed Dua Lipa card was Signed Elton not x !

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Permalink Reply by Bob on October 25, 2021 at 2:25am

Could you post a screenshot of the email from the Elton website please?

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Permalink Reply by Stephen Woods on October 25, 2021 at 2:58am

Here it is

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Permalink Reply by Bill on October 27, 2021 at 5:54am

It wasn't to long ago that Ozzy's website swore that he signed all the cd';s also

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Permalink Reply by Guy on October 25, 2021 at 11:45am

If you want I am willing to exchange it with the Dua Lipa...

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Permalink Reply by Robert Swale on October 27, 2021 at 1:47am

Correct me if I’m wrong but you can actually see examples of the Elton sigs that are failing some TPA right in front of him as he is signing in the video? How do you explain that?

I would like to know why these are failing, is it the letter formations, pen pressure, what? I think these TPAs need to update their records on Eltons sig as clearly what they use to rely on are no longer reliable….

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Permalink Reply by Jason H on October 27, 2021 at 2:12am

You make a good point. And I agree. To me, these all seem real. Has anyone received a failure with psa? I've only seen failures with beckett quick opinions so far

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Permalink Reply by Doc See on October 30, 2021 at 11:35am

I'm sure that Elton John signed the art cards since I would think that the art cards are limited edition and that the only people who received a signed art card were the ones who got the signed copies. In regards to 3rd party authentication, their reason for not certifying the signatures is because the autographs are something that they have not seen by him. As a buyer, I can appreciate the fact that they are not willing to authenticate the signatures unless they are 100% sure that the celebrity signed the item.