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Permalink Reply by JMS1223 on January 13, 2022 at 9:01am

Hard to tell but I have seen many look like this from that time period. Could be authentic but could very easily be a forgery as they have gotten so good lately. If this was originally obtained ttm it is likely authentic as he was known to sign authentic ttm back in the 90s occasionally.

The source where you got this would be good to know as it determines how they usually get their autographs - Autograph World, for example, gets a lot of them in person whereas other sources buy them and authenticate them themselves which is prone to mistakes. 

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on January 13, 2022 at 9:02am

Source. Tom Kramer. 

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Permalink Reply by JMS1223 on January 13, 2022 at 9:33am

Not familiar with them. Autograph looks probably too neat to be authentic even though it’s an early example. 

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on January 13, 2022 at 9:36am

He recently retired. Very well known dealer especially with vintage material. His company name was Golden Age Autographs. Many members here know him and have done business with him. 

Not trying to make this about the seller but checking the ink. Trying to decide to submit it to a TPA.

Thanks for your input, JMS.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on January 13, 2022 at 10:04am

Yes, Tom is sorely missed. As is the cead but I think that is Classic/Gary.

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Permalink Reply by KaiMi on January 13, 2022 at 2:21pm

Eric, did I get you right? Has Gary Brucato retired? His latest listing is from December 20th ... His site doesn't say anything to this.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on January 13, 2022 at 2:30pm

No no - I miss the cead. Dr. B is still going strong!

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Permalink Reply by Eddy on January 13, 2022 at 3:32pm

There's certainly been a shift on a couple of levels in our area of interest (classic Hollywood) since GOLDEN AGE AUTOGRAPHS was retired. 

Really miss the work Tom did for the integrity of this field .... but will always be grateful he was a leader in it. 

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Permalink Reply by JMS1223 on January 13, 2022 at 10:08am

Maybe it’s good then. I would definitely send to TPA. 

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Permalink Reply by Eddy on January 13, 2022 at 10:39am

Joe W - 

I know next to nothing about current celebrity signatures.  What I have heard over and over again is that, especially with the modern stuff, the source is often of upmost importance.

In my opinion, Tom Kramer's authentication work is the benchmark in the area entertainment.  If it was mine, I'd feel very confident in it.

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Permalink Reply by Nick Dimeo on January 13, 2022 at 11:06am

Me too, agreed.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on January 13, 2022 at 12:23pm

Thanks to all the replies. Yes, Tom is/was an outstanding seller. Although his specialty was vintage entertainment. Modern signatures are a different animal sometimes.

I am going to get this authenticated and thought I'd get some input before I spent the money.

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