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Permalink Reply by Tony on November 27, 2022 at 6:02am

I’d scam the scammers by making a fake drywall repair bill to repair the damage . 10k cash in hand 

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Permalink Reply by Jason H on November 27, 2022 at 7:48am

I ended up sleeping over 20 hours in the last day and a half. This last week was full of 2 to 4 hours of sleep per night switching between work and Dylan research. It finally caught up with me. I have a lot of catching up to do.. it seems like there are new articles out, not just from Variety. Ill gather and post them to the main thread today

Why can't Dylan sign 2000 signatures and send them out to people who were scammed? Is he still having vertigo problems? Still worried about the pandemic? Nah Its because his greed is causing him and his team to think releasing that many aurographs will devalue his signature overall.. they don't realize that it is the media shining light on this 3 year stunt that will actually devalue it.. he would be way better off just signing autographs making sure everyone has a real signature.. BUT.. I am back to suspecting a certain style is secretarial.. so who knows what we will get in the end anyways

As an autograph collector, I am a fan of celebrities body of work only and couldn't care less about what they do with their free time. I dont usually connect the 2. This Dylan incident is so different. Sure I will still respect what he has accomplished but his persona is a huge aspect that has a connection to it all. This absolutely tarnished his legacy. He shouldn't be worried about the value of his autograph at this point, he should be more concerned with how people perceive his character especially over the last 3 years. I see him now as a frail greedy old man fraudster criminal.. the only way to actually change it in my mind would be to stop making excuses and start signing autographs for anyone who wants them.. sign in person so we have more evidence of his real styles and can put to rest any suspicions of secretarial use on top of autopens.. also the main reason, to just repair the ending of his legacy.. it won't happen.. castle art will refund orders and S&S will not be receiving 2000 books. (1000 for Indigo, 99 for Coles, 900 for S&S, and I assume a portion of those 900 went to Premiere) yes even though there were only 1000 books total, the Indigo incident changes the new total he would have to sign at this point.

If they are monitoring this thread, they know how real people feel. Im sure Facebook is filled with bots and fake accounts and wouldn't be surprised if some comments are coming directly from Dylan's team.

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Permalink Reply by NashVegas615 on November 27, 2022 at 12:23pm

Variety is on the ball with the Dylan story. Here is today’s art print refund story: https://variety.com/2022/music/news/bob-dylan-refunds-art-prints-ga...

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Permalink Reply by Jason H on November 27, 2022 at 12:29pm

Thanks for sharing. Ill be posting new articles about this to the original post soon.. Chris Willman needs his own section now lol.. 

I believe that Bob Dylan is considering being done signing autographs forever after all of this. Which if true would be an absolute shame.. 

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Permalink Reply by NashVegas615 on November 27, 2022 at 12:33pm

True about Wilman, haha. In actuality, Bob may have signed his last autograph in 2019….or 2018….or whenever the first autopen arrived at Dylan Inc

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Permalink Reply by Jason H on November 27, 2022 at 12:53pm

Exactly!!.. and that may be the real reason autopens were even created. He refused to sign even for the autopen machine, which is why all examples have an odd slant. It would make sense for his team to hire a professional and copy his signature to keep the money flowing in

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Permalink Reply by Jason H on November 27, 2022 at 12:58pm

Although, the slant existed to "authentically" signed items prior to the supposed start of his autopen use. its all very interesting. its possible they had someone signing secretarial signatures long before. if anyone has an item purchased with this slant before 2019, please let me know. I'm going to go over all comments posted over multiple threads sometime this week as well but I need a break for now  

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Permalink Reply by JIMMY JAMES on November 27, 2022 at 6:07pm

 InkInvestor I for one totally appreciated every effort of yours that you made to unravel this Dylan fraud. I read every single comment on this thread that you contributed, and I feel that you really kept the ball rolling. I really hope you'll stay with us here in this forum at Autograph Live...you're definitely a huge asset!

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Permalink Reply by Ezekiel Cletus on November 27, 2022 at 6:16pm

I appreciate all the research/help you have provided. With all that has come out, I have no confidence in the authenticity of the signatures on my prints.

Some of the more recent signature examples definitely don’t look right.

Here is an interesting post on the Bob Dylan Reddit that shows a handwritten note to Richard Prince, who folks speculate has ghost painted a lot of Dylan’s art. The handwriting and signature definitely don’t seem to match recent signature examples.

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Permalink Reply by Matt M. on November 27, 2022 at 6:32pm

I’m My mondo scripto is simply not in the same person’s hand as the above:

Show me a video of him signing the crossed-y version several times in this style, then maybe I’ll believe it. I guarantee he couldn’t do it.

AND WHY DIDN’T A REP FROM CASTLE WITNESS THE SIGNINGS??

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 27, 2022 at 6:32pm

Well, I appreciate InkInvestor.

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Permalink Reply by Tony on November 27, 2022 at 9:16pm

I appreciate you man . You have been spot on so far . 

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