Authenticity is Everything
"Blank Sheet" ?
I know we've discussed this issue recently but it still continues to bug me as a collector.
I don't understand how PSA/DNA can slab this and identify it as a "blank sheet". Unless the image was later digitally transferred somehow onto a "blank sheet" after the rigorous verification/encapsulation process?😵💫
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Permalink Reply by eddy on
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Interestingly, this is what shows up when you type in the PSA certification number on PSA's website. I guess it is a "blank page". No Trump signature even appears as an image of what they have certified.
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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on
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That would indicate they passed a page that is not what it appears to be now or that they know the difference. This assumes of course they care about the cert descriptions. I'd not assume so.
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Two items with the same number? Where is the exit...
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When they say "Blank Sheet" at PSA, they appear to mean it!
Is PSA told, "It's going to eventually be a "Donald Trump", so put that label on the plastic casing"? Do some dealers buy empty capsules from PSA and add their own item later? Looking at the PSA site, it would appear that there possibly may not have even been a signature to work with.
That may sound far fetched, but I really don't know how this stuff works.
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Permalink Reply by JK on
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No, they don't do any of that.
The cert issue is apparently a glitch in their system.
Someone had DT sign a blank page and then later printed the photo over it. Its that simple.
I've heard that people who chase celebrities around in Hollywood would sometimes get celebs to sign blank photo paper. It is easier than the "collector" having to carry around photos of every celebrity they might run into. It also allows them to end up with a particular "signed" photo that the celeb might otherwise not be willing to sign.
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"Someone had DT sign a blank page and then later printed the photo over it. Its that simple."
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Yes, a pretty common practice. The Nixon resignation letter (document) may be the "classic" example.
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They have to know - you can't get ink under the signature.
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One of the previous owners has added a comment on the historical site and says this:
"I owned this photo. It is a genuine printed photo that Trump signed, and was not a blank, signed, then printed".
They were then asked:
"Excuse my ignorance. Why then would PSA say it's a blank with no photo on their site to verify?".
Response by previous owner:
"Because companies are opinion based, they are not always correct".
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That is to be expected at this point. The gap to GAI is a tiny bit closer.
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Maybe he's right, or maybe he's trying to protect the story that he gave the new owner when they bought it.
I'd like to think the authentication company can tell if it's printed after it's signed, but I'm expecting less and less from them so who knows.
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"I'd like to think the authentication company can tell if it's printed after it's signed, but I'm expecting less and less from them so who knows."
Isn't that why they put "Blank Sheet" on the label? How else would it get in that slab? Why doesn't it say "Photograph?" This is where the slippery part comes in. Suppose I don't know what "Cut" means as opposed to "Photograph" in regard to the recent items (Lugosi, Douglass was it?)? This thankfully says "Blank Page" but is a novice going to see that or the "signed" image? What is dictating value here and why?
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This is not what I think of as "eye appeal"...that existed before the signature.
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