Beatles A Hard Day’s Night SP From Weiss Auctions and A Comparison To Facsimile Signatures

This Beatles SP is coming up for auction from Weiss Auctions on 10/16.

Here’s a comparison of each signature from the SP to the respective signature from a single set of facsimile stamped signatures. 


https://weiss.auction/auctions/1769663/lots/44531929

Thoughts?

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Permalink Reply by Tobi on October 14, 2025 at 3:05pm

And the t in McCartney looks very shaky, as if it had been written during an earthquake.

Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on October 14, 2025 at 4:51pm

I am baffled how this passed the Quick Opinion.  Even without seeing the stamped versions that Ballroom has posted, the one in the OP is shaky, and has several technical issues that anyone that studies Beatles signatures would pick up.   It really is a head scratcher.

Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on October 14, 2025 at 9:56pm

I totally agree. When I first glanced at the OP I thought immediately that it was off and was amazed to see that anyone had thought otherwise. The OP "signatures" also looked printed to me.

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on October 15, 2025 at 9:34am

Any thoughts about the loop of the “H” in John’s signature? It’s narrower than the one from the comparison facsimile signature. Towards the bottom it curves slightly to the left to match the position of the other signature prior to the upstroke.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 15, 2025 at 10:42am

Great observation - look quite different. There are a few little things like this but if these are Official Fan Club stamps I would not expect those variations. Also the missing underline. 

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on October 15, 2025 at 11:21pm

Take a look at Paul’s “P”s. It looks like the one on the photo mistakenly has a pen lift at the bottom and then the short upstroke was added. Then there’s another pen lift and the stem is redrawn from the bottom.

Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on October 15, 2025 at 11:32pm

Thanks Ballroom. At this level of magnification the "P in Paul looks totally unconvincing whether incorrect pen lifts are involved or not. I really cannot believe that REAL considered this set of autographs "likely real".   

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 16, 2025 at 7:01am

Absolutely. But this now looks like some sort of - it doesn't even look like a signature or  ink at all. The first vertical of the "u" also appears to show a pen lift at the top. Perhaps an email to confirm that Roger did indeed see these scans? If not, this could all be incorrect and that would explain much.

Permalink Reply by fab432 on October 16, 2025 at 9:27am

Hello all, I sent Roger an email and the comparison pics of the stamped signatures. He just got back to me and here is his response.

”

Thank you

I have contacted them to remove it

It was my fear when they sent me the image that it might be a copy but they confirmed the ink was live but it’s not.”

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on October 16, 2025 at 9:37am

That’s great. Pre-bidding just ended this morning. I contacted the auction house and they seemed confident that it’s live ink. 

Permalink Reply by fab432 on October 16, 2025 at 9:49am

Yes it’s likely live ink because someone traced the indented impressions using a wide tip pen to hide a bit of the mess.

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on October 16, 2025 at 10:01am

It seems like it would have to have been entirely done by tracing the impressions. Again, Paul’s underline is completely missing, and there’s no discernible underlying ink in spots where the signatures diverge.

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