This is what Liza herself said. In a September 2025 Instagram post, Minnelli stated, "I'm already starting to sign, and for the uninformed, I don't use auto-pen"...
So are you switiching your stance michelle
and now not returning yours?
and now opining that the Liza's are legit?
JJ
nope. am returning mine. there is something fishy going on imo. how can so many sigs be peachy perfect all signed by an 80 year old? it was also quite difficult to get waterstones online agree to a refund bearing in mind they say the books are handsigned by her and not by a secretary etc
FWIW (very little), both Art Carney's (b. 1918) and Joyce Randolph's (b. 1924) signature started to deteriorate after age 80 or so. Carney's became simplified but the same, and Randolph's became "messier" and larger, but still an attempt at the same form. By 2010 very hectic in execution.
Thanks for the additional examples. I'll try to do some overlaying with those vs the other examples l've accumulated. Appreciate the input as well from Eric, that was my thought too. We were wondering what you thought of these so far.
I'm trying to figure out how to best post videos, and I'm going to repost this one here. I just realized it's buried back on page 3 in my response to Allginger. This is Allginger's overlaid with one of Tobysautographs. Again, focus only on the "Liza." While not 100% exact, it's very close and I just don’t see how it’s possible if by hand.
Wow! Awesome work Matt M !!!
These are NOT looking good are they?
I mean those Liza's fit perfectly right over top of one another, and even
the dots and letter "a"click in/snap in/ fit perfectly in your example .
The smiley face is just a slight variation.
ugh,
JJ
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