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I think it goes further than that. This scares me because there seems to be variations in pen pressure. No basic dots at the beginning and end of each line. I'm just going by what I see online though. I do not have one physically to see for myself up close. 

Lol yeah, it’s like someone (something?) just slightly manipulated the machine occasionally to make them appear different. But also multiple templates being combined to confuse the situation. 

So Premiere (bookplated) is sold out and I've only found 1 for sale so far on Ebay and nothing with the $12 JSA certification option. At least the smiley face has been moved. 

Hey everyone, I'd suggest we start commenting on Matt's new post here. If this takes off, the media will need an organization spot to get info from and it would be best if it received a lot of attention from all of us going forward. You might laugh thinking who is going to care about Liza? But this is bigger than Liza. This is a threat to our hobby. We would still be stuck on secretarial discussions if it wasn't for Matt. Let's give Matt the credit he deserves for this find and try to get this in the media.

https://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/liza-minnelli-kids-...

Jason H  Lumpy THE Z flow? yep that definitely screams of being off.

Matt M

the "broken" out of line  L that then reattaches? yep, that doesn't look good.

Eric Keith Longo "Multiple templates and placements, the occasional "bump" here and there."

Exactly Eric, I had written right away on the forum about multiple templates being used.

And you had said a "bump", I can't quite explain it ... but I had said to Matt that it's almost like when you'd listen to a vinyl record and "bump" the turntable accidentally, the needle would jump, perhaps skip, but then resettle back into a groove, and the song would continue. 

We are all onto something here.

"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark"

JJ

I wanted to post this last night but fell asleep while holding my phone haha too tired.. I am stuck only using a phone for a few days but did my best to show what needs more research 

There are equally spaced (invisible ) horizontal lines affecting this signatures flow. I did my best to highlight with red lines. They seem to be equal distances apart. Fault of a machine but if an autopen, how could the ink flow be shifted instantly like it is?

Lumpy, for the 2nd picture with the arrows, if you can, would it be possible to take a new high quality closeup of these areas? I want to know if what I'm seeing is digital distortion or actually part of the signature? 

Yes, I’ll see what I can do. 

Let me know if this doesn't work Jason. I'll try again. 

Ah, it must have been distortion. Not what I thought. Oh well. 

Thanks for helping out though. One last thing if you could. Would you be able to take a closeup of one of the areas of the "shifts" like this section? 

Shifts

Am I crazy or are they gone? Could it have been an initial glitch within the camera software?

I thought the same when taking these.Where's the shifts? 

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