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Tim Duncan Autographed Iceman 2 Beckett Magazine / Genuine or Fake?

I bought this Beckett magazine from a ebay store by the name of Seattle Signatures, Inc. They had very positive feedback, and many autographed items for sale ranging from athletes to muscians. Looked like they specialized in getting magazines signed. I also verified that the seller has been on Ebay since June of 1999.

Contacted the seller and asked how the autograph was obtained and about his COA. I found his COA to be unique in that it offers a refund upon failing a "forensice/federal handwriting analysis". The owner defended his autograph claiming it was signed at the Fairmont hotel as that was the only hotel the Spurs stayed at when the came to Seattle to play the Sonics. He also expressed distrust for JSA and other reputable companies. An opinion I somewhat agree with as I personally don't know what kind of time these authenticators put into examining a signature or how many signatures they match against. Seller also offered a youtube channel he has with footage of signings etc. (like I care about footage, since that's hardly proof. I don't even know what you look like, not to mention the fact that your not in the footage with the athelete or celeb anyways). At any rate, because the price was right and I thought the autograph had a shot at being genuine, I took a chance.

The signature displays some classic Tim Duncan handwriting characteristics, starting with the double base on the T. The T also has the multiple "swoosh" like strokes across the top. Tim has a lot of variance in his signature. Early in his career he would squiggle out his last name. Commonly he will inscribe #21, but not always. His later autographs are sloppier. Often times he does a form of his initials, which can also vary at least 3 different ways. The autograph in question is a form of initialing and doesn't include the inscription #21. This seemed consistent to me with an autograph that might have been given in a hurry, such as at a hotel. However, the one thing that bothers me about this autograph is the backwards L that almost forms a very skinny "4" using the right side base of the T. This is not uncommon in tims signature, I've seen many initialings where he makes this kind of "4" using the right side base of the T, but he almost always carries through swooping back up to the top of the T. I can't find a signature where he stops abrubtly when making this "4" or backwards L if you will. Other than that, the ink patterns show no sign of hesitancy or stopping during the signature, the consistency of the ink pattern gives it a "signed" appearance. My guess is that if it was faked, it was faked by someone very good. If it is real, it is a very clean and somewhat unique Tim Duncan signature on a classic magazine cover. Opinions?

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Tags: Autograph, Duncan, Fake, Forgery, Spurs, Tim

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Wow good to see someone as into ball as me :) an talking about someone other then Jordan.

I don't study a lot of autos I don't get myself or are PSA . I try to consider my self knowledgeable in the basketball field though.

As you've explained Timmy has changed his auto a lot. I just quickly went and found if I had any of mine handy, I came across 2. 1 from college that has Duncan written aswell. And one with the big T that swooshes at both ends. I haven't seen many like yours but have seen some, but I don't know if they are real either so to compare them would be silly.

Guess I haven't helped much sorry.

I see the listing ended, but it is a good autograph. I've encountered Duncan many times and there is quite a bit of variation depending on how many people are there. If it's crowded then you get the crappy rushed one like this, if not, then sometimes you get a better signature.

Yes, I went ahead and purchased it. Have it sitting in my office right now.

Like you say, if he's in a hurry you get a crappy rushed signature. However, after looking around at signatures JSA verified on other photos I have seen some very very sloppy, very very crappy initialings. I would consider this to be a pristine Timmy initialing. Really not sloppy at all, but simple indeed.

Thanks so much for the opinions. Sounds like we have a two person consensus the autograph is real! Three person consesus if you count me!

 

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