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Myst-O-graph famous fake? Need proof to get money back..The Mantle and Ford

Ok, a local auction company was selling some sports memorabilia. Almost every thing they had checked out fine. But In the heat of the moment, I let my guard down and bought this this Mantle, Ford. After seeing the COA I had that sinking feeling. So I contacted the auction company and they want to hear what an expert has to say..So If any one could provide a expert response that I can email to the auction company I would appreciate it beyond words,

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Permalink Reply by Null on August 28, 2013 at 2:21pm

Common "Florida" forgery accompanied by a Myst-O-Crap "COA".

Permalink Reply by Ryan Schaff on August 28, 2013 at 2:26pm

Not quite the professional response I was hoping for, But thank you for your time!

Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on August 28, 2013 at 2:28pm

I'm sorry but you were deceived.  As Ryan says, those are common forgeries.  They are typical, consistent, and prevalent.

Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on August 28, 2013 at 3:33pm

Ryan,

I do not know if you are located in South Florida or not, If so you are welcome to come to see me at one of the 2,  P.A.A.S. offices and I will offer you for FREE,  our Letter of Examination. With or Letter of Examination you should have no problem explaining exactly what is wrong with these signatures and you should receive a full refund. I would only want the auction house information so I can speak to them and let them know what is going on as far as the autographs being sold and to make them aware of their consigners.

Thank you
Michael Frost
P.A.A.S.
Professional Autograph Authentication Services.
954 450-4283
954 434-4484
Permalink Reply by Ryan Schaff on August 28, 2013 at 4:16pm

Wow this is an awesome offer And I would love to take you up on this, However, I'm located in Arizona. I need to get some thing together asap. Faster I move the better my chances of getting a refund. Thanks again for the offer, you a stand up guys and really wish I could take you up on it!

Permalink Reply by Dan Gregory on August 28, 2013 at 4:12pm

If you can, I'd advise you to take up Michael's extremely generous offer. You won't get any better proof that this a forgery and should allow you to obtain a refund.

Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on August 28, 2013 at 4:27pm

Ryan,

You can go to our website and mail it in to me and there will be no fee.

You also are welcome to have the auction company contact me directly.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 28, 2013 at 5:54pm
Ryan,

The photo is probably inkjet printed. All the ones we've seen with those fakes on them have are. Mantle died before high-quality inkjet printers were available. They are signed by machine, BTW.
Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on August 28, 2013 at 6:55pm
What amazes me is they actually have a photo of Whitey signing that image. I have never seen that image authentically signed. Unless, it is a photoshop job and they inserted that image into the pic.

Or, they actually did have Whitey sign a few for the sole purpose of creating the "proof" photo to justify the thousands of fakes.
Permalink Reply by Ryan Schaff on August 28, 2013 at 7:16pm

I need to get this sent off to Mr.Frost. I feel like an idiot for spending $50 on it!

Permalink Reply by Null on August 29, 2013 at 7:42am

$50 should've been your first red flag. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. For that low of a price I would just shred it and be done with it. Otherwise, they are going to refund you, and turn around and resell it.

Zipper I too have never seen ONE authentic piece of this particular photo.

Permalink Reply by Steve on August 28, 2013 at 7:44pm
The Mantle is 1000% fake.

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