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Autographs being reinked and restored

Some time ago I seen a beatles set that had been restored By a professional,they touched up the boys signatures around about 15 percent of the signatures were reworked.

Does anyone have any idea if this is a good idea to have signatures restored and would anyone have any pictures of reworked autographs.

Does it effect the value of the sets or signatures?

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Permalink Reply by Thorsten Knublauch on March 3, 2015 at 1:27pm

I dont have that scan anymore.

Permalink Reply by Thorsten Knublauch on March 3, 2015 at 1:27pm

Sure Paul - but all informations were refused - contrairy I was accused of lying "as the seller had the memorabilia to proof it". As said - i have no idea if the seller knew about. But after the end of the auction and the relisting and reselling in such short times afterwards I do believe that there was no real buyer at the first auction.... I believe that says a lot.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on March 3, 2015 at 2:09pm

Its a little fishy when sellers get their back up like that it rings alarm bells. Ive come across a few when they know the items a fraudulent.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on March 3, 2015 at 5:09pm

So these are the two fully signed white albums they have been on another thread talking about the auction and authenticity. My opinion is most likely manufactured pieced together and sold if not one perhaps both. Members were saying how John didn't do yoko doodles in 73 because he was with May pang.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on March 3, 2015 at 6:06pm

My sentiment is a lot of Beatles autographs will be called into question one day with this stuff going on. I believe it will blow up and be exposed.

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Permalink Reply by Scott Paul on March 3, 2015 at 7:22pm

I think a lot of buyers will want assurance that any particular autograph has not been tampered with in any way. It will likely also create a new industry of authenticating that an autograph has not been re-inked or was not on a particular album etc originally. It is not the collectors so much as sellers who see bigger dollar signs with 4 Beatles individual autographs transferred to an album. Why any collector would want something as phony as that is beyond me. I thought the forgers were the worst thing to happen to this hobby I am now not so sure. An authentic signature carefully glued to an album does not a signed album make. If I found out I had bought one with no disclosure I would be wanting my money back. The market will eventually be the guide if this become widespread. There needs to be a new word coined for this type of desecration (in my opinion).

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Permalink Reply by JXE on March 4, 2015 at 4:20pm

Here's a funny instance of a contemporary "re-inking" case. This item is on ebay for a high price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WINONA-RYDER-SIGNED-PSA-DNA-COA-8X10-PHOTO-...

Interestingly enough, I saved a file of this same Winona Ryder autograph when it was sold on ebay this summer for a low price, advertised as a "smudged" autograph:

This "restoration" may make for a big profit. Buyer beware!

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Permalink Reply by Rich on March 4, 2015 at 4:36pm

Nice to see actionauto2003 is an ethical seller.

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Permalink Reply by BreakOfDawn on August 3, 2015 at 2:50pm

Hi, I have a few Michael Jackson signatures on very high gloss photos signed in June 2009 (the same week he died, don't know if that makes them more or less valuable in any way).

When he signed them, he set them on top of each other as he moved through the pictures, and so some of them smeared slightly onto the back of the picture set on top of it. I was considering trying to have the smudges "cleaned" or "restored" so they are cleaner autographs. Not re-inked as they are already very strong autographs in black sharpie, but the edges are smudged.

Would you advise for / against this ? Or it doesn't matter either way?