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Rock and Roll Collection Concerns [Title revised by moderator]

I see this site brought up a lot on this site for autograph references.

http://www.rockandrollcollection.com/

problem is, who ever this Stephan is he has a load of forgeries up here too. I get messages from people from time to time saying he has offered to sell a member here an item or two and it is never the real stuff imo, it is usually the fake stuff. Greed. He wants money but doesn't want to part with the good stuff.

Eagles are his most famous work. Attached is a screen shot of his fake work (not limited too). Notice how they are the same..... duh. If you look through his stuff he has loads of fake Zeppelin, Beatles, Springsteen, Stones, Floyd and more. Even the so called authentic Traveling Wilbury's is not real. Maybe the George and Petty are ok but 100% not the Lynne and I'm pretty sure the Dylan is bogus also. Anyway, I don't wish to debat about this guy and his ethics but if you are using him a reference be careful and I wouldn't buy anything from the guy either.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 5, 2015 at 10:20am

Yes, there's much more in the print edition.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on December 5, 2015 at 10:20am

I think this discussion has so many tentacles it is hard to keep up. It may better serve all to start new specific discussions. Eagles, Pink Floyd, etc.

I do believe that stating something was acquired "in-person" is vastly different that acquiring it any other way. That should be the foundation to root out what is good and what may be questionable.

I think everyone has the same goal. The honest truth to the best of our ability.

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Permalink Reply by Mike T on December 5, 2015 at 1:13pm

Authentic Nimoy Signatures

Mr. Duncan's Nimoy signatures, which he stated were all obtained in person:

The quality is poor because they are from screenshots since Mr. Duncan took them off his website, but you can still use a number of them to see the differences. Please add any comments below.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 5, 2015 at 1:20pm

Mike,

The last two of Stephen's from on the second and third rows are duplicates. Could you please remove one of each? Thanks

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Permalink Reply by Mike T on December 5, 2015 at 1:25pm

Good catch Steve, I have edited it.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 5, 2015 at 2:08pm

Thanks, Mike. I thought there were more than 9 on his site. Am I mistaken?

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Permalink Reply by Mike T on December 5, 2015 at 2:12pm

Correct, I had to omit some because the quality was far too low to grab from the screenshot. If he puts the scans back up I can make a more comprehensive collage.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 5, 2015 at 1:24pm

Hello Mike T,

Here are two I think typical of Nimoy:

And my own vintage signature below:

Best wishes,

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 5, 2015 at 1:35pm

Hi Mike,

That is useful - thanks! That is what I saw earlier in the thread. I do not understand the density and frequency of these unusual examples, said to be obtained in person and over time, when I can not find any other examples from the period of other in-person collections, or anything else, that are anything like these examples in the second composite - opposite slants, formations so odd in "N" and Nimoy (number of letters), that trailing "y". The negative space in the loops of the "L" appears very unusual.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 5, 2015 at 2:12pm

Hi All,

And here is what I see and how I see it:

Click to view full size. Comment welcome. Thanks to Pete Chuka and Mike T for additional exemplars.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Mike T on December 5, 2015 at 2:19pm

Nice comparison Eric, the flip view is very telling.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 5, 2015 at 4:44pm

And here, just the "N" in "Nimoy" which has been mentioned several times. The 4th example (click to see all) on the far right is typical to me. Nimoy has signed for me in person and also while walking (after talking with Christopher Plummer (Chang) and W. Cronkite, after seeing Barrymore in NYC so C. 1995). That signature, black ballpoint on on black glossy paper, also has the typical "L" and "N".

Click to enlarge and see all.