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Permalink Reply by Richard Booth on January 5, 2016 at 11:11pm

This is real, but not a nice example. It was from the signing session no doubt and late in the session as the pen looks to have started running out of ink! Classic silver pen syndrome!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 5, 2016 at 11:27pm

I'm not comfortable with it. If it's real it's missing a lot of genuine traits I look for.

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Permalink Reply by automan on January 6, 2016 at 3:17am

its real,,but like first poster stated ,,its late in the session,,besides no faker would use a pen like that,,it defeats the objective

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on January 6, 2016 at 6:05am

actually, if the objective is deceit, then it does achieve the objective. people use crappy pens, signing in dark areas, anything to mask the details of the signature. not saying that is the case here, but it has happened. I agree with Steve on this, the L and M are uncharacteristically small relative to the other letters. it just looks off.

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Permalink Reply by automan on January 6, 2016 at 9:07am

actually the deceit wouldnt be very profitable,which is the whole purpose of it,, the very fact its a bad example makes it obvious,,,fakers i would imagine would check out the pens before attempting a forgery,they got a result like this they would discard it..the whole sig looks rushed,and thats probably because its running out,,something that needs to be considered before dismissing it

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on January 6, 2016 at 9:09am

if it sells at half the price of an authentic signature, and their incur zero cost, how much profit do they need to justify it?

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Permalink Reply by automan on January 6, 2016 at 9:23am

a lot of ifs there,,but my point is they would surely realise the pen was dry before attempting it,,why try and profit with half the price when they can get double the price with a working pen,,anyone devious enough to do a forgery,would be inteligent enough to use a new pen

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 6, 2016 at 9:37am

Forgers sometimes do things especially so you don't suspect them. Poor pens, skips, rushed signatures. Their cost is only the cost of the object.

In this case look at the L like Terrier said. Besides being too short, it doesn't have the characteristic McCartney shape. The M only has 2 bumps, where Paul is very consistent at 3. The Cs of McCartney are attached, which he does sometimes, but in a great majority of cases, the first C doesn't touch the second one.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on January 6, 2016 at 9:39am

I would also like to believe that he would have more than one pen at his access if he is doing a signing.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Viola on January 6, 2016 at 10:07am

Just my 2 cents. I was at the signing for this DVD in NYC in 2006. At the beginning of the signing, Paul was switching pens , signing the DVD in silver, and the CD in black. Near the end, when I got to him, he was signing everything in silver and not bothering to get fresh pens. He just wanted everyone who was on line to get an autograph. This could be real.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on January 6, 2016 at 10:23am

It looks good to me, but I wouldn't be interested in it. It appears that the "L" is the result of an attempt to avoid signing over his image. I've seen very similar "L"s on a couple of other signed copies of this DVD.