Is this a real Marilyn Monroe? Help!!!!

Need opinions on this Marilyn Monroe inscribed script. It's the best images I can provide

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Permalink Reply by JMS1223 on June 22, 2024 at 11:01am

Difficult to see signature but inscription and signature appear to be written in different hands/inks. 

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on June 22, 2024 at 2:11pm

Marilyn suffered enormous nervousness and anxiety during Bus Stop. That probably showed up often in her handwriting, so autographs from this period REALLY requires a Monroe expert. This one is above my paygrade, so I won't give an opinion.

Luckily we have, Pauline Berry, who is my go-to expert on Marilyn Monroe. I'll ask her to join in.

Great autograph to post. I recommend not buying it without a major TPA's opinion, preferably BAS, because reputable TPAs often don't approve real autographs that make them look bad.

Permalink Reply by Sterling Shane on June 22, 2024 at 3:10pm

thank you and I will await for Pauline's opinion. I also just sent a quick opinion to Beckett

Permalink Reply by Pauline Berry on Sunday

Hello 

Very poor quality image. How can anyone spend money on something presented like this?

Although there are Marilyn aspects, overall it appears to be some kind of forgery. It looks to be written slowly and with too much pressure. I think it's someone trying to emulate her writing I'm afraid. 

Permalink Reply by Pauline Berry on Sunday

The signature itself is a clear forgery to my eye. I would need to look at the dedication longer, but paired with this signature it's a moot point.

Change of pen between the two? Dodgy.

Some Bus Stop era signatures on here, down towards the end of my blog. They don't look like this 

https://marilynmonroeautographs.blogspot.com/2013/07/evolution-of-m...

Permalink Reply by Sterling Shane on Monday

I have added a clearer image of the inscription and signature but I will listen to your advice and stay away from it!

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Permalink Reply by Pauline Berry on Monday

Hi Sterling

A much better image. So the different pen was just a lighting effect. It's obviously a rookie mistake to change pens if you are forging. 

It's not a terrible attempt. But there are dozens of points where it fails, even though the overall effect can give the impression of her writing, as intended. 

Did you get a quick opinion from anyone else? 

Permalink Reply by Pauline Berry on Monday

I've wondered if the script is even authentic. Most 50s scripts are some shade of yellow now. I've looked at pretty much all that have come to sale. And seen them resold in later years.

What's the origin of this one? Who is the dedication name, Bruce? Never seen this one before. Who was it she worked with? 

Permalink Reply by Sterling Shane on Monday

I think the dedication name is Bess 

Permalink Reply by Pauline Berry on Monday

There was a Bess Flowers, "Queen of the Extras" on Bus Stop. But the signature is nonsense regardless. 

Permalink Reply by Sterling Shane on Monday

Only a quick opinion from Beckett and it failed. I am not a fan of the TPA's since they are usually young kids authenticating and do not know much about the old timers signatures

Permalink Reply by Pauline Berry on Monday

Beckett are very particular, as they should be. Good at Marilyn. 

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