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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 2, 2016 at 10:22am

I don't know. Bruce. Right now, I assume that Zach Rullo will be.

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Permalink Reply by Randy on October 4, 2016 at 6:05am

While Kevin and Bill are highly respected, both are currently full time autograph dealers and I seriously doubt if either of them are giving up their business to authenticate full time for PSA/DNA.

Selling autographs and authenticating for a 3rd party is a conflict of interest in my opinion. PSA/DNA forced Jimmy Spence out of the autograph business many years ago for this reason.

I think PSA/DNA will use these guys on high end items and they needed some instant credibility with Grad leaving and they give them that.

I seriously doubt they will be doing a significant volume of authentication.

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Permalink Reply by jerry stern on October 4, 2016 at 7:56am

So, what's the conflict? Who else would work for an authenticator? A full-time expert? Maybe, but Kevin and Bill have integrity, and I assume they will not authenticate their own stuff. That would be a conflict.

The real problem is getting some one to stand firm against the pressures of a large auction business wanting authentication of expensive items.  It takes integrity. 

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Permalink Reply by Randy on October 4, 2016 at 10:00am

Offering an LOA from PSA/DNA for the items they sell is the conflict I was referring to. That is what Jimmy was doing when he was still selling while authenticating for them. He eventually had to give up the dealer part of his business.

Perhaps, they will not do that with their items. If so, I agree no conflict.

We'll see how quickly Kevin's 2 page ad in SCD that has run for years disappears. I doubt that is any time soon. Maybe he will just use someone to run his autograph business while he authenticates but I cannot see him walking away from it.

Same with Bill IMO.

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Permalink Reply by jerry stern on October 4, 2016 at 11:23am

PSA LOAs are dated.  I would be uncomfortable with Kevin and Bill using a PSA LOA that is dated after they started working for PSA, but why shouldn't they use the old LOAs?

My bottom line is nothing is perfect, and any improvement is welcomed although it won't be perfect.   

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Permalink Reply by Randy on October 4, 2016 at 11:38am

Old LOAs are fine.

Jimmy was issuing PSA/DNA LOAs with his signature on his items and then selling them. I know because I bought something directly from him with their LOA.

As long as they don't use the PSA/DNA name to help sell their existing material or future acquired material with an LOA signed by them, there is no problem.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 4, 2016 at 9:22am

Kevin and Bill are full-time authenticators. They didn't say how dealerships will be handled. Maybe they get to see how it works out before they close them.

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Permalink Reply by Bruce Juice on November 22, 2016 at 3:50pm

Here is a new COA Card / Sticker from Beckett (possibly just issued from Steve Grad?)

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 22, 2016 at 3:53pm

Thanks, Bruce. Grad did the show last weekend on his own, he's probably the one who certified that.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 22, 2016 at 4:06pm

That sticker has an unusually large amount of unused negative space and is a distraction. They should be designed to be less of an eyesore, and always on the Reverse. Always. My item is not a permanent rent-free billboard.

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Permalink Reply by marc e on December 11, 2016 at 10:07pm

totaly agree if the put that onmthe front off my poster i would kill them

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 22, 2016 at 4:32pm

 Ids there some cosmic law that these stickers have to be shaped like a football? Even in coins...wonder when there will be a 4th party sticker like the CAC coin sticker. I suppose we have that now.

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