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1965 Brian Jones Autograph from UK. Opinions on this would be so much apreciated!!!

Hi!  This piece is something I purchased just Nov on ebay for $445. + $50 shipping fees, customs charge, whatever.  I am seriously in want to know if this is genuine.  All opinions are welcome.  At first, a little history is required about this piece, the seller has sent me a photo of the autographed book the signature is on.  There were, in fact, several autographs like Ingrid Pitt now deceased.  Thank you.

Tags: 1965, Brian, Jones, Rolling, Stones, guitarist

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Permalink Reply by Philip Ellis on December 30, 2016 at 2:59pm

hi, since your uk based based like myself, have you ever dealt with in person autographs or celebrity ink? if so what's your experience with them like? thanks

Permalink Reply by Paul on December 30, 2016 at 3:05pm
Permalink Reply by Philip Ellis on December 30, 2016 at 3:08pm

yes pal

Permalink Reply by Paul on December 30, 2016 at 3:17pm
Permalink Reply by nicholas pansini on December 30, 2016 at 7:21pm

Thank you Michelle, it's a mystery , wish I knew.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 30, 2016 at 7:40pm

It is NOT a mystery.

Seller told you point blank he never divulges such information - "it is not allowed".

Seller is then seen divulging such information regularly anyway, just not to you.

Other individuals with expereince tell you the "story" of not being able to divulge this information is pure BS.

You still believe the seller. That is the mystery IMHO.

 

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 30, 2016 at 7:46pm

Is anyone seeing anything in these images, the green and more?

Lack of "r"? Connections? The "a" way to the left? Baseline? Relative scale of large features? "Tweaks" or twinges of...strangeness?

Spacing/relationship of "a" and "o" - they also echo each other in a way but not so in the questioned example.

How often do Jones autographs lack the underline Paul mentioned?

Permalink Reply by Paul on December 30, 2016 at 7:56pm
I can see what your getting at Eric, google tracks uk and they have about 6 brian jones , stones sets.
One is inside of the b.
Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 30, 2016 at 8:26pm

Yes, I see the one you mean I believe, big "B" there (tad unusual?), but that "a" is still halfway to the J" in relationship, and there is still a clear "r". One of the exemplars I used was from Tracks.

Permalink Reply by Scott Paul on January 3, 2017 at 7:58am

I do not know music autographs and am the first to admit that.  I do however value and respect both Paul and Eric greatly.  I am not going to advise you merely state what I would do if I were you.  If you only got a Quick Opinion from Roger I would send the original in for a full LOA from him.  I hope things work out good for you.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on January 3, 2017 at 8:55am

Thanks Scott, that means a lot from you. Appreciated.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 29, 2016 at 9:27pm

Good idea Paul. Seller has up right now a very strong complete Rolling Stones album page with clean/nice signatures in matching blue said to be OK'd by Rger for...$599 Buy it Now? And this lone Jones in question was $450 just a while back? This seems very strange to me.

I am sure the seller has many wonderful items; he has 3 or 4 Hendrix right now including a color SP and Experience stage used equipment that he states was purchased from a Bonhams auction. He mentioned sources frequently. Now, this is really confusing, because this seller has been telling Nicholas that "established auction policies" prevent him from ever revealing an auction house - that this is the norm in the autograph industry. The "proof papers" (photocopies) that came with the Jones have the relevant data about the auction scratched out. When asked about the auction house, just the name, he keeps saying he can not know who sold the Jones to the auction house (which he will never name). But, that was not the question he was asked...

The Jones reminds me of some things I see coming from across the pond - framed, larger album page in white with no apparent age, always a clean Reverse, undedicated, usually ballpoint, often Rock & Roll, and an odd off look observed by at least 4 people. That with sellers strange behavior, his comments ("If people knew where I got my stuff I'd never make a sale" and more) combined with other weirdness...I would return this Jones.

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