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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on January 6, 2018 at 6:17am

I agree with Pete's comment.  As Mr. Simon said in another post, the autograph industry is in the worst shape it has ever been, and who knows what the effect of these mass forgeries will have on future pricing.  I have been collecting for over 35 years, and while I always try to get items I want at very good prices, I rarely if ever consider it an investment.  I'd rather invest in Bitcoin.

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Permalink Reply by marc e on January 6, 2018 at 4:46pm

bitcoin ether and lite are making my head spin this month.lol

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Permalink Reply by Tiziano Vianello on January 6, 2018 at 2:05pm

Led Zeppelin Rolling Stones Beatles Elvis Presley Doors Jimi Hendrix Pink Floyd Queen Nirvana Michael Jackson  the others are nothing... But i believe more in Rolling Stones as an investment now... The other are alredy high in value...

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Permalink Reply by Zoe on January 6, 2018 at 3:28pm

Thumbs up!

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Permalink Reply by Tiziano Vianello on January 6, 2018 at 10:28pm

And bob dylan and marley

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Permalink Reply by Tiziano Vianello on January 6, 2018 at 10:39pm

rock has run so much at the time that it is still modern and current so the autographs have market now and even in twenty years

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Permalink Reply by sling on January 7, 2018 at 9:03am

agreed. The 1 percenters and people who run the world today grew up with rock as there soundtrack (I mean around the world not just usa). They are in their 50's now and so I think the market has another 20-30 years of healthyness before a new generation runs the world (probably still highly influence by classic rock but certainly having there own music to relate to ...

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Permalink Reply by TradeGeek on January 7, 2018 at 10:02am

Pete's answer applies to just about any hobby. By definition, hobbies do not involve economic necessities. Autographs, sports cards, stamps, coins, classic cars have little intrinsic value. Unless your playing in the very high end; don't expect a return on your investment. With autographs, authenticity is even a bigger issue than in most hobbies. Faking a Babe Ruth takes a lot less money and effort than faking a Ferrari from the 1960s. Provenance is everything on the high end, and even that is more difficult with autographs. (Ask the people who bought Ty Cobb autographed items from Al Stump). As a lifelong sports memoriabilia collector, I'd be quite happy if my son sells (if he so chooses) my collection for what I put into it plus inflation. If the only reason you collect something is to make a profit, you should be either ready to spend hundreds of thousands on high end items (very carefully selected) or be prepared for disappointment. 

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Permalink Reply by sling on January 7, 2018 at 6:23pm

Yes, when I have bought things  my philosophy was If my life takes a bad turn  my hope was to get back what i PUT INTO IT. This is all I hoped for because the great pleasure in owning such things. Thankfully so far things have turned out much better than that.

But FYI about ferrari .vs hanwritten.  DON'T UNDERESTIMATE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY  which is mostlyexpressed in written fashion.  Mass produced items are expensive but easy. I would rather have thomas edison's drawing and thoughts on the first phonograph than any high end music system!!

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Permalink Reply by Tiziano Vianello on January 7, 2018 at 10:23am

Now I listening blues... Muddy Waters and Howlin Wolf And i have 37 years old... The music not have time... Also the classic music now is current...

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Permalink Reply by sling on January 7, 2018 at 6:25pm

agreed-some but not all will be know 100 years from now just as we know Mozart, Bethoven etc from  2ooyears ago 

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on January 7, 2018 at 10:48am

A Morrison signature was a good investment 15 years ago. A check endorsement was less than $1K at that time and now they're around $5K. If you consider rarity versus popularity, the trend could certainly continue.

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