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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on June 27, 2022 at 2:06pm

I believe this is likely genuine.

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Permalink Reply by Dylan Fritch on June 27, 2022 at 6:14pm

Thank you for you input! I thought it looked right, but just wanted to double check.

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Permalink Reply by Jim McFiver on June 27, 2022 at 4:08pm

Looks right to me, too.

So many secretary signatures out there - but this one appears correct.

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Permalink Reply by Dylan Fritch on June 27, 2022 at 6:15pm

Good to hear! Definitely gonna be bidding on it then, the secretary signatures is what had me worried, since he had such a long running career. 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on June 27, 2022 at 8:55pm

I would pass on grounds of condition. Contrast is light as well. A rip right near "Frank"...others too.

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Permalink Reply by Dylan Fritch on June 27, 2022 at 9:34pm

Yeah, it's not in the greatest shape. I am still gonna consider bidding on it as long as it doesn't get too pricey since the condition isn't great.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on June 27, 2022 at 11:01pm

Low price fades, condition lasts forever. What looks like emulsion loss right before "Frank" is very distracting. This should be discounted IMO. I'd avoid.

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Permalink Reply by Eddy on June 28, 2022 at 7:28am

The secretarials with Sinatra are definitely something to always be aware of.  In this case, no worries.  Looks fine. 

The question here is how does the condition affect your decision.  With truly vintage material, sometimes scarcity trumps condition IMHO.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on June 28, 2022 at 7:44am

Condition is a major factor when it comes to easily available signatures. Modern show signatures with condition issues are typically worthless. Why pull a dented can when there are 50 perfect cans next to it on the shelf?

However, when it comes to scarcer and more valuable vintage items, small condition issues don't weigh as heavily against. If the price is right and the item generally presents well, I can overlook small creases or tears. 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on June 28, 2022 at 9:55am

What does the entire item look like?

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Permalink Reply by Dylan Fritch on June 28, 2022 at 11:05am

The entire item is a bit rough but the seller does make note of that. 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on June 28, 2022 at 11:14am

This is FATAL. No contrast as noted. Ink faded. Condition overtakes the incomplete signature. Buy ink, not indentations. I would never be seen selling this damaged item!

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