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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on February 6, 2017 at 6:19pm

I really can't see the signature because of the flash.  

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 6, 2017 at 3:03pm

If it's not uploading for you, private message me and I'll upload it. We don't have to be friends first, since I'm the community manager.

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Permalink Reply by JENNIFER GLASGOW on February 6, 2017 at 3:09pm

I believe it finally did thank you

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on February 6, 2017 at 6:19pm

Thank you James!  Incredible game and team.  From what I understand, Brady is virtually impossible to get in person, and some of the ones I have seen are just squiggles.  I was fortunate enough over the years to get a few of his signatures (photo, ball and mini-helmet) for ridiculous prices.  It is entirely possible that his signature might go the same way as MJ.  Supply and demand, and who wouldn't the signature of the GOAT?

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 6, 2017 at 6:38pm

Someone was showing me their Tb autograph today and im going who in the world is that. Well now i know.

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Permalink Reply by James on February 6, 2017 at 8:29pm

I totally understand, Paul. It's an American thing, pretty much, for those who admire Brady. Not many other countries play American-style football, whereas sports like soccer (I guess you also call it soccer too) and basketball are played around the world. But Brady has now reached iconic status in America as far as sports figures go. He's kind of like a Mantle or DiMaggio or Ted Williams in baseball...not quite a Babe Ruth, but then again, no one is. And as far as Ruth goes, I think a lot of non-American AML members didn't know who he was before they joined AML.

Sports figures are sometimes separated by national boundaries, but not so much when it comes to following iconic music artists...because everyone sings, and we all know who the great ones are.

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Permalink Reply by James on February 6, 2017 at 10:04pm

Terrier, that was the most amazing football comeback I've ever seen. I know there have been like two other playoff games where the comeback was by just a few more points...but this was the damn Super Bowl..for all the marbles! I was rooting for the Pats all the way. I've always liked Brady, and I respect what they've accomplished. A tandem like Brady and Belichick will never be seen again. To be able to score 25 points in the final 17 minutes of regulation to tie it up...well I'm still amazed, but I really shouldn't be...it's Brady. When the score was 28-20 and the Patriots got the ball back with about 3:30 left...at that point, I thought the the Patriots would win...as long as they could get the two-point conversion, because I knew Brady would drive them down the field to get the touchdown...that's just what he does. The only thing I was worried about was the two-pointer. That's never automatic. But still the odds were with them I thought at that point. Then when they won the coin toss, right away I thought...GAME OVER! I knew Brady at that point was unstoppable, and that the Falcons would never get the ball back because the Patriots would not settle for a field goal.

Anyway, I'll have to start saving my money because I would like to get a Brady. I only have a few football autographs. I collect more baseball and basketball...for whatever reason, but Brady really is a must-have. You know my brother was the smart one. You know how it used to be that right after the Super Bowl, QVC would offer up all kinds of memorabilia of the winning team for sale. Well I remember that right after Brady won his first Super Bowl, I think in February 2002, my brother bought a Tom Brady signed Super Bowl football. I think it cost something like $400. At the time, I thought...damn bro...you overpaid for that one. I didn't say that, but that's what I was thinking. I remember my brother saying, though...well that will probably be the only one he wins, but it's still a Super Bowl football signed by the winning QB. Ha, ha...little did we know! But now...that $400 price tag seems pretty good!

Anyway, Terrier, I think we've got something else in common besides liking the Patriots. I've always liked the Celtics because of their winning tradition as well. But I don't know if you're aware that two of the greatest Celtics were Kansas Jayhawks like me! I'm a University of Kansas grad. So I'm a big Jayhawks fan. And both Jo Jo White and Paul Pierce played for Kansas in college. I think Raef LaFrentz and Scot Pollard of Kansas also briefly played for Boston, but of course, they weren't near the players that White and Pierce were. It was pretty cool that the Celtics and Paul Pierce, Finals MVP, won the NBA title in 2008, and the Kansas Jayhawks won the NCAA National Championship in 2008 as well. Anyway...I just thought I'd throw that bit of trivia out there.

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Permalink Reply by J.Seah on February 12, 2017 at 8:48pm

Here is a Tom Brady obtained in person . Circa 2007

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Permalink Reply by James on February 12, 2017 at 8:55pm

Nice!

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Permalink Reply by Josh Board on February 12, 2017 at 8:18pm

Brady will never be worth as much as Jordan, for obvious reasons. But...here's a more interesting question.

TMZ recently did a story, as have a few other publications, and they talked about how once a year, Brady does these signings. They charge $1,500 for footballs, $800 for 8x10s, and $500 more if you want a short, personalized message.

Harvey Levin at TMZ brought up a point that I strongly agree with, and am curious as to what you guys think. Isn't it cheesy and a bit lame for a player that is STILL PLAYING, to charge for autographs? The guy makes...what? $100 million playing football....probably another $5 mil a year in endorsements (that's a low estimate)...and what? He needs to make $100,000 for a few hours signing autographs for some company? It's just...a bit odd, and low class (in my opinion).

Now, for charity -- go for it. Or...when you're retired? Go for it. Sell them for $5,000 a piece if you want!!! But when you're making millions to play....it's weird.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on February 12, 2017 at 8:31pm

This is the prime reason it's hard for me to have much interest in sports autographs. The prices are silly for players who are still alive and well and signing. Also, if I'm going to buy an autograph, Id' rather avoid dropping a grand for a complete non-effort scribble, which is what most of these guys do.

I talked to someone from a local sports autograph shop a few years back, and I asked why Charles Woodson was charging as much if not more than Aaron Rodgers. I guess the story is the same for most of these guys - if you're getting $10 - 20 million per year, why would you waste your time signing a bunch of stuff for a dealer? Hence, in order to make these athletes anything resembling an attractive offer, you have to offer a big wad of cash for a big, fast signing.

And, superstars aside, collecting rising stars ain't much fun, because if you have just about any measure of success, you're charging $50, 100 or beyond.  Eddie Lacy was charging $80 around here recently, and that's a few weeks away from being a $5 autograph. Players change teams, lose their star status, retire - and, accordingly, fan enthusiasm can drop dramatically. Along with the prices.

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Permalink Reply by TradeGeek on February 14, 2017 at 9:51am

The public signing are never worth the price as far as the autograph is concerned. Your paying to meet the player, get an item personalized or have something very specific signed. 

If the autograph itself is all you want you can typically purchase an item from the promoter who arranged the public signing for half the price a few months later. I've seen it time and time again. The promoters make most, if not all, of their profits from items the celebrity or player signs for their own inventory. Celebrities demand such huge fees these days the promoter typically makes little if anything from the actual event. I paid $80 so my son could meet Justin Turner (a star only among Dodger fans) and get a photo personalized. An autographed Turner photo isn't worth half that and I'd guess it won't be worth $15 in a few years. But he got to meet him and get his picture taken with him. The same promoter is now selling photos on eBay for $40. They wait just long enough to not piss off everybody who paid the in person price before they dump their inventory at the actual market price. 

The major super starts are different. Brady, Jordan.. they don't mind holding that inventory and waiting to get top dollar. As for most stars or semi stars, wait six months and check back with the promoter. You'll likely pay a fair price for an item.  

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