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Permalink Reply by Barry S on August 18, 2015 at 8:17am

I looked at Heros and Legends. So the items for sale aren't the ones you see?

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Permalink Reply by Barry S on August 18, 2015 at 8:24am

Is Myron a recognized board certified forensic examiner?

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Permalink Reply by Jim Hallowes on August 18, 2015 at 9:38pm

I'm not sure, and it says under "authenticity" that he's certified by the U.A.C.C. Authentication Course, so I'd guess probably not. I'd think if you were unsure, you could send the image to someone you trusted. As I've read here on he Autograph Magazine site something like all opinions here are just that educated guess and opinions. I have known Myron for many years, and he's been in business since 1968, and know he's well respected... of course there will always be people who think they know better... and as we all know many of the "certified forensic examiners" make mistakes. I'd bet Myron has made mistakes over the years, but all in all from what I've seen and heard, and personal experience, I'm comfortable recommending him.

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Permalink Reply by Jim Hallowes on August 18, 2015 at 9:38pm

Hi Barry,

I'd say the items on the heros and legends website site are the ones you see there or very similar. As you may know, often when someone gets a chance to get a celebrity autograph, it is common practice to have more than one photo, so I think what is being said on the heros and legends website is that the image shown is either the actual one you'd get, or very similar ones done at the same signing session.

All the best, Jim

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Permalink Reply by Bruce Juice on August 18, 2015 at 9:43am

Try posting some of the high ticket stuff from "Heros and Legends" on this site and I bet you won't be happy with what the members say about his items. 

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Permalink Reply by Jim Hallowes on August 18, 2015 at 9:44pm

Hi Bruce, Oh, I don't know if I wouldn't "be happy" with what I might hear on this site regarding any items from Myron, as you've probably seen here for yourself, there are lots and lots of people who think they are the be-all and end-all when it comes to authentication. I hope those folks get good jobs using their authenticating experience and skills. I'd be interested in seeing examples of any items purchased from Myron that were proven to be fakes or forgeries... there's always folks who think they know better... I think my response to the question below address this issue:

"Is Myron a recognized board certified forensic examiner?"

I wrote: "I'm not sure, and it says under "authenticity" that he's certified by the U.A.C.C. Authentication Course, so I'd guess probably not. I'd think if you were unsure, you could send the image to someone you trusted. As I've read here on he Autograph Magazine site something like all opinions here are just that educated guess and opinions. I have known Myron for many years, and he's been in business since 1968, and know he's well respected... of course there will always be people who think they know better... and as we all know many of the "certified forensic examiners" make mistakes. I'd bet Myron has made mistakes over the years, but all in all, from what I've seen and heard, and personal experience, I'm comfortable recommending him."

Barry also wrote:

"I looked at Heros and Legends. So the items for sale aren't the ones you see?" and here's what I responded:

"Hi Barry,

I'd say the items on the heros and legends website site are the ones you see there or very similar. As you may know, often when someone gets a chance to get a celebrity autograph, it is common practice to have more than one photo, so I think what is being said on the heros and legends website is that the image shown is either the actual one you'd get, or very similar ones done at the same signing session.

All the best, Jim"

Your thoughts, Bruce?

All the best, Jim

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Permalink Reply by Barry S on August 19, 2015 at 6:09am

Jim I understand when someone gets an autograph they may get more than one, but I really doubt he has a stack of signed Rolling Stones photos. When I buy from dealers I trust I am accustomed to buying the one I see, then they put another one up for sale. The reason I asked if he is a forensic examiner, it says in his 10 day return policy that any return based on questionable authenticity must be returned with a letter from a recognized board certified forensic examiner. I would just assume he is one as well, and I doubt any forensic examiner knows what is real or fake. I bought a very expensive fake item from ARA that Steve mentioned, and I'm still mad about it and mad about anyone selling fakes. Just so you know a collector doesn't buy from a place that has a 10 day return policy. I looked at your page Jim, you are a very interesting guy. You have some very nice in person autographs. You did yourself no favors tying yourself to Ross. Does anything you have come from him?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 18, 2015 at 11:07pm

Hi Jim,

I'm quite familiar with Myron Ross and his company, Heroes and Legends:

Myron Ross is well known as a major source of forgeries, and has been for many years.

I kicked them out of Autograph Collector Magazine shortly after I bought the magazine in 2004 because he was selling forgeries.

Myron Ross was kicked out of the UACC Registered Dealer program for selling forgeries.

Myron Ross has been a major supplier to some of the most notorious sellers of music and Hollywood forgeries in the world. That includes to Jerry Gladstone of American Royal Arts, which is now out of business.

And that Beatles album on "Beverly Hills Pawn" that Myron called genuine a while back? In my opinion that was an obvious forgery, too.

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Permalink Reply by Jim Hallowes on August 19, 2015 at 11:46am

Hi Steve,
Thanks for the information and I'll be very cautious in the future! My personal experience with him has always been very good. Mostly contracts and checks. And I really don't think Myron would be selling forgeries if he was aware of that.
But, I could be wrong.
Thanks again!
All the best, Jim

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 19, 2015 at 1:02pm

Hi Jim,

Good luck. Glad you have had good luck with Myron. Believe me, he knows what he's selling.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on August 23, 2015 at 9:00pm

Are you serious? He's sold more forgeries than he has authentic signatures. He knows the junk he sells. It's folks like you that keep him in business.

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Permalink Reply by Rock G III on August 19, 2015 at 11:09am

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