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Hey Ballroom, That sounds like a plan. I am going to post the other items I purchased, because if I'm going to ask for a refund, I'm going to ask for everything they stole from me back, if that turns out to be the case. I really appreciate the help and will putting the other items tomorrow. I still have a couple hours of work I need to get done tonight. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience. Rich D~
Before you start a claim with your ccard company you need to get the rejection/non authenticity letter first as the ccard company starts the countdown clock as soon as you submit a claim .
Hi Michelle, I appreciate the input. Have a great weekend. I can use all the help I can get.
I've never seen any valuable rock and roll signed item from an ICZ auction that was authentic. They clearly know they are a forgery factory. Live Auctioneers makes money on these so they have no desire to remove them from their platform. Please post the other ones you got from them here.
Thanks Bruce Juice!
I will be posting the other items soon. I would love to get a full refund from my CC company, for everything I purchased that isn't legit, but is it worth the cost to get the proof I need to present to Capital One to get a full refund. I bought 6 or 7 autographed items and spent about $1,300 at two auctions. Even though I'd rather pay a professional to authenticate, and get a full refund from my CC company, than have the scumbags get a dime. These people must be killing your hobby, when people like this are preying on dumb newcomers to the field like myself. I'm sure it scares a lot of people away. A real shame. Thanks again for the input. I truly appreciate the information.
A member here recently purchased two fakes from the company Steve mentioned, Dalshire International. They also use GFA. After they declined to issue a refund, the member was able to obtain a refund from his credit card company without submitting the items to a TPA. I would suggest that you contact Capital One and explain the situation, and ask what would be required in order to receive a refund.
Thanks Ballroom. I'm learning a lot from you guys. Can't thank you enough for the help.
Yes, ask for the refund from your credit card company. Also, I'm sure you can use Steve Cyrkin as an expert if Capital One needs another opinion to prove the graphs are fake.
Hey Bruce. It's good to know that I can ask Steve if he would be willing to do that, if it comes to that. Thx!
Make sure you get as much info as you can for Capital One. I have had to jump thru hoops to get a refund. 1 was autographed related and the other was not.
1st one was buying signed album from a music artists own web store. It was such a pain in the neck dealing with Capital One. It took a couple of months to finally get my money back.
2nd one I ordered 5 pairs of boxing gloves. When my box arrived there was only 1 pair of gloves in the very small box. Capital One sided with the boxing company who made the mistake. The boxing glove company was based in Mexico at the time and all their address and phone numbers on file were no longer in use. after about 5 months of fighting Capital One finally gave me a full refund.
If they give you any trouble, send me a private message and I will give you the steps on how I proceeded to get my money back.
Hey,
Man, I hate to hear stories like yours. Everyone I know who sells things online, and relies on entities like credit card companies, Paypal or Ebay, seems to always get screwed when there's a return or some other issue with the sale. People are always buying things, then saying it was broken or didn't work, then returning a different item (always broken or damaged) than what was actually sent. These companies ALWAYS side with the buyer, never the people I know. These scammers know exactly what they're doing, especially when it comes to sending things back to the Seller. There's many instances where it's just not worth it for the Seller to pay to have something returned, and having no idea what they were going to get back. I've had several friends just give up on trying to make a few bucks online selling things. Not worth all the battles, and I mean, there are a lot of scammers out there. I guess we'll see if it gets to the point that I have to go to Capital One. And thank you for the offer to school me on your successful strategy if things don't work out with Capital One. All you guys here are incredibly awesome, helpful and very generous with your knowledge and time. BIG Thanks to everyone, and I promise, this sad story of mine IS going to have a happy ending. And I'll be the one writing it, not the bad guys.
Below is a link to a blog I posted that shows a forged Mickey Mantle with a COA from ICZ.
https://live.autographmagazine.com/profiles/blogs/coa-icz-auctions-...
As you probably know by now, Guaranteed Forensic Authenticators (GFA) would "authenticate" your Hendrix in a blink-of-an-eye.
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