Is this MJ Signed Jersey Legit? UD cert/sticker but Beckett Won’t Pass

Hello! I made an initial purchase on this jersey from a new eBay seller that had recently sold a couple other very similar Jordan jerseys. There were multiple shady things with the sale including the seller having it sold by a different account saying they had reached their sellers limit for the month. This new account had recently sold a typical fake Jordan/Kobe/James USA jersey with some fancy paper COA in a binder ($875). The sale was also just too easy with a low price of $2K. The signature looks off to me and I read a recent article that says scammers have found ways of transferring UD holograms to other jerseys. Here is the article from cllct.com. https://www.cllct.com/sports-collectibles/autographs/why-so-many-mi...

UD emailed saying it is authentic which is why i decided to buy but the article specifies (G.O.A.T Authentics) that this is not necessarily a solid assurance. Long story short - please let me know your thoughts and opinions thank you!

*Update: UD replied saying the can confirm “hologram BAM23947 As an authentic signed White Michael Jordan jersey signed on May 7th, 2014.“ - there is also only a stock photo listed for this cert in the UD database

Tags: Deck”, Fake”, Jersey” , Michael Jordan” , Upper

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Permalink Reply by SeaEls on October 4, 2024 at 10:52am

Thank you so much Steve! I really appreciate the input. I’m already in the process of the return and will be coming here before any other purchases. It’s a shame the scams are this deep and that UD sends emails that don’t confirm the item but just the hologram. I know their system was built from scratch in 92 but it seems like they should have been able to incorporate a detailed database for every item MJ signed considering the $15k price on their site. Lesson learned, thank you!

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Permalink Reply by SeaEls on October 4, 2024 at 10:53am

On the selling limit note - I believe eBay does have a selling limit for new accounts and they had closed two other jerseys a few days earlier (UD also confirmed those but signatures looked similar)

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 4, 2024 at 12:04pm

I just googled it and it says there is a limit, sorry. But it doesn't make sense. What I read says $50 limit, total $500/month. Don't know if that's right or not.

In any case, setting up a new account to get past the limit probably violates eBay's terms.

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Permalink Reply by SeaEls on October 4, 2024 at 1:02pm

Oh no worries - it’s obvious that it was a shady sale and shouldn’t have been touched regardless of any additional details.

FYI - I reached out to Upper Deck to see if they confirm that the signature was authentic (not just the hologram) and this was their response. I’ll probably never completely trust a UD product without a photo in their database again. I was under the impression a UD confirmation was solid.

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Permalink Reply by SeaEls on October 4, 2024 at 10:07pm

Thanks again Steve - are you able to give an opinion on my latest post with two MJ signature? I really appreciate everyone’s input but also am hoping to learn what you are looking for in the autographs. For example there is a great tip (probably a standard but new and very helpful to me) about the Mantles and where to draw the lines with the elevated “tle” - My goal is to be able to look at autographs and make a confident determination (I understand the subjective nature of signatures)

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Permalink Reply by AustinCollector on October 4, 2024 at 2:13pm

I agree with Beckett on that. Whatever the logistical stuff with the paperwork, this was not signed by MJ.

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Permalink Reply by AustinCollector on October 4, 2024 at 2:15pm

Upper Deck is only saying that registration number is legitimate in their system. They aren't necessarily authenticating that particular signature. I believe someone kept the original jersey and applied a fake hologram to this jersey, and paired it with the original COA.

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Permalink Reply by SeaEls on October 4, 2024 at 2:21pm

Thanks again!

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 4, 2024 at 5:07pm

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Permalink Reply by Steve on October 4, 2024 at 5:02pm

This is a forgery. The problem with them saying that the hologram and number on it are legit, it that it can be removed from a legit jersey/signature and placed on a forgery. UDA can only state that the original signed jersey they sold was good, they have no idea what has happened to the hologram or what it is currently attached to.