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Liza Minnelli Autopen - Kids, Wait Till You Hear This!

Starting this separate thread to track the Liza Minnelli autopen situation.

Signed copies of her new book, Kids Wait Till You Hear This!, include autopen signatures.

You may also visit the previously existing Liza Minnelli thread for more information.

https://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/liza-minelli-kids-w...

Feel free to post your examples or any info on the return situation.

Overlay Video 1

Note how “Liza” matches up

Overlay Video 2

-First round, note how the “Love” appears to overlay nearly exactly

-Second round, the circle of the smiley face appears to overlap closely, and the L is starting to line up as well

-Third round, the Z and the A in “Liza” appear to lineup closely.

Overlay Video 3

Notice how almost all of the smiley face lines up on this one

-With a slight adjustment, notice how the Z and the A start to align as well

Overlay Video 4

Watch the top of the smiley face. All I am doing is bringing the circle of the smiley face into line. Watch how the Z falls into place. Watch how the top loop of the L falls into place. The “A” is a little off and also the “I” but you can see how they seem to be off by a very small and consistent distance.

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It appears that the autopen signatures in these books were generated by an advanced autopen machine that can produce subtle variations in letter structure and placement that would disguise the use of autopen. Please see this video to learn more on how this works:

https://youtu.be/pROf6q-9POU

A thread has also been created to make others aware of this and discuss the issue if interested:

https://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/beware-of-the-new-a...

Tags: Autopen, Hear, Kids, Liza, Minnelli, This!, Till, Wait, You

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Permalink Reply by Matt M. 2 hours ago

Not even halfway through yet and “There’s even an option to slightly deform randomized letters, so that not every A looks the same.”

Yep, that’s exactly what’s going on. And that option to shift the placement of a letter slightly. Insane.

That’s not good…. no more templates that are fully the same and easy to match, only individual segments that might match up if we’re lucky.