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While it would require far more than a single article to educate the autograph collector to detect Mantle, Williams and DiMaggio forgeries, there are some general as well as specific warning keys to these three autographs that may aid in detecting possible forgeries.
Genuine Mantle, Williams & DiMaggio signed photo provided by EAC Gallery.
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As a general rule, one of the first things I examine in an autograph is its feel – how it was written. When an individual signs his name there should be an easy, smooth flow to the signature. We’ve all signed our names countless times, and we don’t need to think about it. An item we offered in one of our past auctions was a sheet of paper signed several times by Joe Jackson. Jackson, who was almost completely illiterate, actually had to practice, in essence work at, writing his name prior to signing documents. Likewise, when a forger writes a signature, he or she is working at it and therefore upon close examination it’s often possible to detect such warning keys as a slowness of motion, stops and starts at inappropriate spots, and possibly even a shakiness in the writing. An invaluable aid to help detect these keys, taught to me by John Reznikoff of University Archives many years ago, is to turn the autograph upside down. When you view an autograph in an unnatural position these warning keys are often easier to detect.
In addition to such general warning keys there are specific warning keys, unique to an individual’s autograph, to keep an eye out for.
In the 1980’s and 1990’s Mickey Mantle stated on numerous occasions that he was blessed to be able to earn more money signing his name at one single weekend show than his father had earned in an entire year working as a coal miner. Because of this Mantle always felt his fans were deserving of a clear, elegant signature. In authentic Mickey Mantle autographs Mickey would always end the “y” in “Mickey” on an upswing, and because he would be quickly flowing through his signature, he therefore started the “M” in “Mantle” on a higher level or plane than he had started the “M” in “Mickey”. Most forgers, because they were “working” on writing Mantle’s signature, would pause after completing “Mickey” and begin anew in writing “Mantle”, therefore placing “Mantle” on more of a straight line with “Mickey”. If one places a ruler or sheet of paper straight across the item Mantle signed (not straight across the signature) all that appears below the ruler or paper of an authentic Mantle is the bottom portion of the “M” in “Mickey”. In the case of most forgeries the ruler or paper completely covers the entire signature. Another difficulty forgers have with Mantle’s signature was his unique way of looping the bottom portion of his “M”. Such curved lines were executed in one easy movement by Mantle, but are most often elongated by forgers who again are “working” the signature. Such slow, elongated forgeries are especially easy to recognize on baseballs as their curved surfaces only add to the forger’s difficulty.
In the case of Ted Williams autographs, with the exception of the capital “W” in Williams, Ted would consistently make the size of all the letters in his last time nearly the same exact size. Most telling is the “illia”, with the “l”s just ever so slightly taller than the “i”s, and the “a” as tall as the “l”s. Try as they may, most forgers simply can’t undo years of training and habit causing their “l”s to be significantly taller than their “i”s, and their “a” significantly shorter than their “l”s. Williams also connected the “W” in “Williams” to the “ed” in “Ted” with a swirl that gave forgers difficulty in replicating in the same, easy, flowing movement as appears in authentic examples. Also of interest, in addition to the many Williams intentional forgeries in existence, Williams revealed late in his life that during his playing days his signature on team signed balls was often a “clubhouse” example, not penned by him.
Regarding Joe DiMaggio’s autograph, problems for forgers begin with the first letter in Joe. Like the “M”s in Mantle’s autograph, the “J” in “Joe”, which appears as two loops, a larger loop on top and a smaller one below, were created by curved lines which are the hardest to duplicate without leaving telltale signs of slowness or inappropriate stops and starts. In addition, DiMaggio would pen his “J”s so that the lower loop would be written on top of (literally written over) the upper loop in two places. For some inexplicable reason, a significant percentage of DiMaggio forgeries flow in the opposite direction, with the upper loop covering the lower one. An inexpensive magnifier or jeweler’s loop will aid in viewing this detail. Finally, the general feel of an authentic DiMaggio autograph is often somewhat sloppy, in the sense that the spacing between letters is uneven, obviously much more so in his second name. Again due to the fact that forgers are working rather than simply signing, the spacing they place between each letter is far more uniform.
Finally, the age-old adage “experience is the best teacher” is indeed appropriate here. The building of as extensive a library of exemplars as possible, of both authentic and fake examples, would be of help to visualize these and additional warning keys, and tremendously assist in the detection of forgeries.
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Tons of Mantle forgeries popped on eBay over the weekend. Here's one listed by eBay seller squirrelmama13
COA From Tony Podsada.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mickey-Mantle-Autographed-Pic-Mounted-on-a-...
Monkey Mantle listed by eBay seller burn4u
Seller says he obtained this himself. Lol.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTOGRAPHED-MICKEY-MANTLE-OFFICIAL-RAWLINGS...
He probably did obtain the ball himself. He never says how the signature magically appeared on it.
Another Monkey listed by eBay seller bcgolf1944
COA from Drew Max.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mickey-Mantle-autographed-baseball-/2211968...
Another Drew Max (AAU) certed forgery!!!! Way to go Drew!!!
Crap listed by eBay seller sheffer72.
Says his dad had it signed in 1981. Lol.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/mickey-mantle-signed-8x10-dad-had-it-signed...
Dad got it signed in person but lost the COA? Who in their right mind would buy an expensive item from an auction written up like this?
"father had this signed by mickey mantle somehow i lost the coa any1 who nos mickeys auto can tell at first sight its real deal il refund $ up to a month but i dont have to worry about that"
Here's another Mickey Mantle forgery.
This Mickey Mantle forgery is listed by EBay seller sheffer72.
EBay seller sheffer72 writes "Anyone who knows Mickey's auto can tell at first sight it's the real deal."
Seriously, EBay seller sheffer72? The seller claims it was signed in 1981. This is a "Operation Bullpen (1990's)" Mantle forgery.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281073102640
Hi Mike try attaching the photo again, it did not post.
That is a tough one. My first instinct is it's okay, but there are a few nits that bother me.
I'd really like to see a crystal clear, sharp scan.
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