The Pros and Cons of Meet-and-Greets

It’s about time I tackle this subject. I must admit, though…I’m doing so with lots of second-hand stories and editorializing. It’s also after midnight (no Clapton reference intended). I’m a little tired and just typing off the top of me head!

A few of the late night shows did a comparison between the meet-and-greets that were happening at Avril Lavigne’s concert recently. She was charging $400 for the meet-and-greet, but you couldn’t touch her. That created a series of pictures that were…really funny to look at. Fans were standing two feet from her.

A few days later, there were photos of Rhianna’s meet-and-greet. I’m not sure what she was charging, but one thing for sure. She was getting up close and personal. She’d have her arms around you. She’d let you grab her a**. She’d do wacky photos, if that’s what you wanted. And it really seems that if you’re spending the big bucks for the meet-and-greet, that’s the way a celebrity should be with the fans.

Now, this leads to the autograph collector. Since I worked for five years at a classic rock radio station, I had been backstage many times. This was before meet-and-greets were so common – unless it was put on by the radio station or some other promotion. There was never a price attached to attend them (ah, the good ol’ days!)

The first time I had the opportunity to spend money for one, was to have dinner with Paul McCartney for $5,000. I was on the fence about it. Only 20 people were being allowed to attend. When I called a few days later, they told me only two people had signed up. I was thrilled. There might only be a few of us. I told my friend he was the only Beatle I needed to complete a set, but I still wasn’t comfortable spending that much money. He and I came up with a good plan, though. I’d bring 20 albums. Have him sign those, and sell 10, to help shoulder the cost. Now, selling autographs goes against everything I feel about this hobby, but if it meant I got into an event cheaper, I was considering it. I said, “There’s no way he’s going to sign 20 albums for me.” My friend replied, “There’s no way he’s not going to. You paid five grand to get in! He owes it to you.”

I ended up not going, because I figured the most he’d sign for me was five. Thankfully, I eventually got his signature another way.

Now, fast forward 18 years. I met a guy that DID go to that same dinner. He told me he brought eight items for Sir Paul to sign. McCartney sighed, and signed two. Paul then looked over at a big guy in a suit, who promptly came over and said, “Paul isn’t here to sign a bunch of stuff.”

McCartney said, “I’ll sign one more for you, but that’s it.”

The guy got three items signed for his $5,000 (which went to a vegetarian charity he was promoting). I won’t do the math, but…that’s a lot to spend for 3 items that aren’t worth that much. I was happy I opted not to do it.

My friend is a locksmith, and he was re-keying a concert hall that Bonnie Raitt was playing at. She had turned me down for an autograph years ago, but when she did a benefit my sister was involved in, she helped me snag a signature. Raitt was charging around $500 for a backstage meet-and-greet, that included eating with her. Yet all the money she charged went to charity. That certainly makes it more palatable.

My biggest fear about these M&Gs is that the autograph collector is the most likely to be disappointed. The fans that want the wacky photos for Facebook are set. That’s because most bands are probably willing to sign a few items, but not many more. So you have to decide – is $500 or more – worth one or two items signed, and some photos? Yet the more I hear and read about M&Gs, the more I’m finding out that bands aren’t willing to sign.

I spent $100 for a meet-and-greet with Steppenwolf, because it’s a band I love, and the money went to an animal rescue charity (and included watching the sound check performance). Singer/songwriter John Kay snapped at me when I slid a third item on the table for him to sign. This is a guy that is legally blind!!! Yet he noticed, after we were all told “two items each,” I had a 3rd thing in there.

I’ve been writing the Kiss Kronikles, and a few have talked about how much they charge at the meet-and-greets. Well, I read an interview with former Metallica member Jason Newsted. He said Metallica always wanted them to do M&G’s, because Kiss made so much money. He said that it’s ridiculous to pay to meet Gene Simmons. He wouldn’t have a problem paying a few hundred to meet his favorite players from the 1970s Baltimore Orioles, but not rock stars. He said when you meet them in person, they should always sign autographs, and he’s never charged for an autograph until the website went up. He figures if fans want to order a CD or 8x10 signed on the website, they can pay, but never in person. Now that’s the attitude I want to see.

I’ve talked to a few friends that have paid for the M&Gs for “30 Seconds to Mars,” and they were told no photos. That bothered them.

There was controversy on the Godsmack website, when a fan talked about paying for the VIP package (which included a M&G). It wasn’t until after the purchase was made, that the band put on their Facebook page, “No autographs or photos.”

A woman was furious (and rightly so). She posted, “If they’re going to do this, they should state those rules on the page where we are paying for these tickets.”

Other people later posted that the band usually does sign, but only one item per person, and only if they have time. They will usually take photos, but with their photographer (which is a common practice for bands now). You then go to their website and download it.

I have been hearing horror stories regarding ZZ Top and how they handle M&Gs. This didn’t surprise me, because a stagehand I know, told me that’s the only band that ever refused to sign an autograph for him as he was working on the stage (and he only had one photo he would ask to have signed).

On the ZZ Top website, a man wrote a blog about how he was a big fan and paid $300 for the M&G. He was told by the bands manager that there would be no autographs and no photos. It would be a Q&A with the band, but that only 4 of the 20 people with their hands raised had questions answered. He was furious about spending the money for what was basically a cattle call.

Another woman wrote of a similar experience, saying she paid for this for her husband. It was enough money to feed them for a week, but she wanted to splurge for him. He came back to the hotel room rather upset. He said it was a quick three minutes and he didn’t get to say a word to the band.

So the conclusion I’ve come to is – do your research before dropping big bucks for the meet-and-greets. You might get an item signed, and a photo – but you might not. If it’s your favorite band or the money goes to charity – go for it. You’ll probably never get the chance again.

I just prefer bands to do what Def Leppard told me in an interview. They said they finally started charging for their autographs. They make everyone pay $5 and they give 100% of that to charity.

That’s affordable for everyone, and some charity gets a nice chunk of change.

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Tags: 30 Seconds to Mars, Avril Lavigne, Bonnie Raitt, Def Leppard, Gene Simmons, Godsmack, Jason Newsted, John Kay, Kiss, Metallica, More…Paul McCartney, Rhianna, Steppenwolf, ZZ Top

Comment by Josh Board on May 23, 2014 at 7:23pm

I will never stop blogging. Trolls like Carlos can't keep me away. It's amazing that he can't even answer a simple question, as to what HE would include in his VIP packages. Hell, let's really drive Carlos really nuts here -- let's say he's a famous singer, and he agrees to do MEET AND GREETS! And Carlos immediately thinks...I remember that thread we had on this, but hell, I don't mind signing autographs. I'll do it. But...here is what Carlos would answer right here in this thread "I may sign autographs, but that's my choice. If I don't feel well one day, I might not. It's my choice. A meet-and-greet doesn't include that, but I'd usually do it, because I wouldn't mind doing it." 

Now, since this dopey Carlos is soooo interested in the definition of words, let's pose this question. You pay $100 to see the Rolling Stones in concert. Those folks are getting up in age, so they decide...we want to wrap this concert up early and get to bed by 9. So, the concert you paid $100 goes for only 15 minutes. Yep. You paid $100 for 15 minutes. EVERYONE would be furious. Wait. Everyone, except Carlos. You know why? He's the nimrod standing in aisle 4, telling the folks with the Stones shirts "Well, the definition of concert in Meriam here, states....'a musical performance given in public, typically by several performers and several compositions." They played in public. So, if you have a problem, take it up with The Edge and the Dictionary."

Comment by Carlos on May 23, 2014 at 7:24pm
Resorting to name calling now are we?
Comment by Carlos on May 23, 2014 at 7:24pm
"do your research before dropping big bucks for the meet-and-greets. You might get an item signed, and a photo – but you might not"
Comment by Carlos on May 23, 2014 at 7:26pm
Here's your answer to the "simple" question. - In my VIP package is give everyone a million dollars, a Bentley an ice cream cone and a thousand signed items. But im a good guy like that.
Comment by Josh Board on May 23, 2014 at 7:30pm

The reason I've resorted to name calling is...you can't answer a simple question! Because you fear, it will show you lost an argument.

Now, among those posts you just made -- you surprisingly had a good point in one of them. DO THE RESEARCH. I'd just think...you don't normally do the research before buying a concert ticket. You assume the band will play for over an hour. At a meet-and-greet...you shouldn't have to research it. You assume it will include a photo and an autograph. EVERYONE (but you) would assume this.

And for you to not even answer the question, is lame. Also means the name I called you fits. Off to racquetball.

Comment by Carlos on May 23, 2014 at 7:32pm
assume[ uh-soom ]
verb (used with object) [as·sumed, as·sum·ing.]
1. to take for granted or without proof

Again, you shouldn't assume anything. unless it's stated don't hold your breath. End of story
Comment by Carlos on May 23, 2014 at 7:37pm
What would it matter if I signed autographs at a meet and greet if I were a celebrity? As you show in the blog all celebrities are different. There is no written rule for meet and greets, you show that clearly.

Again, for the thousandth time, you can't assume an autograph will be given at these events or you may be disappointed
Comment by Brian on May 23, 2014 at 7:44pm

I second Ian's post - thanks for the blogs, Josh. I dig 'em.

Comment by Ian Baldock on May 23, 2014 at 8:21pm

Sorry I didnt spell argument right, I couldnt edit it. Carlos Im not here to attack anybody and you are entitiled to your opinion . But maybe its time to let it go. Looking forward to your next blog Josh.

Comment by Peter C. on May 24, 2014 at 6:02am

Carlos:
My question is different - what do you think that is the reason why meet&greet are offered and sold to fans? What´s the point of M&G according to you and your "google definition"?

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