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Beatles-Signed Abbey Road Albums: What's Real? What's Fake?

Sometimes you just have enough. Brian Waring, a collector from Colorado, was one such fellow. He tried to sell a Beatles-signed Abbey Road and a Stones-signed Sticky Fingers album on eBay, but his listings were kicked-off because they thought they were forgeries. He was sure eBay was wrong—he paid tens of thousands of dollars for them from American Royal Arts, who claimed to be the world's largest seller of signed rock and roll. James Spence Authentication was at a local show, so he asked them to authenticate the albums to prove to eBay they were genuine.

When Brian came back to pick up his albums with JSA COAs, JSA sat him down and gave him the bad news—they were sure neither one was real.

Brian was shocked. ARA was a big, respectable-looking company, and the albums came with authentication papers from Christopher Morales, a court-approved forensic document examiner. But soon he realized JSA was right, so he contacted ARA, sure they would honor their guarantee of authenticity.

All he got was the runaround. So Brian told his story on Autograph Magazine Live! a few weeks ago, to warn other collectors, and, he hoped, get ARA president Jerry Gladstone's attention.

Brian got more than the attention of Gladstone and other collectors. He got a call from the FBI. And it wasn't until he started blogging about it that Gladstone seemed to take honoring ARA's guarantee seriously.

Brian took his blog posts down yesterday, because a refund from ARA seems to be forthcoming. He feels like he's done his part. I agree. Autograph is investigating the FBI's communications in the industry further and will report on them soon. But this is a great opportunity to talk about Beatles-signed Abbey Road albums, and a bit about signed Beatles albums in general.

Abbey Road is one of the favorite Beatles albums of all time. And like all Beatles albums besides Please Please Me and With the Beatles, complete band-signed albums are extremely rare: Only two known examples are recognized as genuine by Beatles autograph experts.

Lizzie Bravo got one of them signed. An "Apple Scruff"—one of the storied girls who were the ultimate Beatles fans—Lizzie was a 15 year old Brazilian teenager who moved to London with her family in 1967 and spent every free moment in front of Abbey Road Studios and more to be as close as she could to the boys she loved. "They Came in Through the Bathroom Window" was inspired by one of the Apple Scruffs, who entered Paul's house through an open window to see him.

But Lizzie was invited into Abbie Road Studios at least once. The Beatles needed girl back-up singers while recording "Across the Universe" in 1967. Paul didn't want to wait for professionals, so he went to the Scruffs waiting outside and asked if anyone could sing. Lizzie said yes...and the rest is history.

Cathy Sarver got the other one signed. Cathy was an American girl who hightailed it to London to meet the Beatles once out of high school. Both got them signed only by hanging out, relentlessly, outside Abbey Road Studios. Well, usually outside.

Abbey Road was released in September 1969, but the photos I have of Lizzie and Cathy are earlier.

Two 1967 photos of Lizzie with John Lennon:


Here's Cathy with each of the Beatles in 1968:






Lizzie and Cathy were in England when Abbey Road came out, so they bought the English release of the album. The English version had a slick, lacquered cover that you had to dig into to sign, so the autographs on both of them are rougher than they would be on American release albums, which had cheaper, lightly coated covers.


I don't have Lizzie's entire album, only the signatures:


John Lennon and Paul McCartney's autographs


George Harrison's autograph


Ringo Starr's autograph


Here's Cathy Sarver's Abbey Road album, signed by the entire band:


The stain in the lower left corner by George Harrison's autograph is from Cathy's cat peeing on it.

The Abbey Road albums above are the only ones called genuine by Beatles autograph experts.

But like all Beatles albums, that doesn't stop people from selling Abbey Road albums they claim are signed by the Beatles—experts be damned. Some of the most common ones that are not considered genuine are the ones known as Southern California forgeries, because that's where they appear to originate from. Most are fairly easy for experts to identify by the characteristics of the signatures. And the signature characteristics generally don't change much or at all with the age of the albums, whereas Beatles autographs changed significantly over time. Of course, an album can be signed years later than its release, or one autograph at a time over a decade or more. But when signed albums come out through the same sources, sold by the same dealers, with similar autographs, whether they're 1963 or 1970 releases, you have to ask...what the heck is going on?

One of the more common and easiest to detect characteristics of the ones called Southern California forgeries can be found in John Lennon's autograph. John Lennon didn't start drawing his smiling face caricature until about 1971, but many of the Southern California examples have it, often with the inscription "With love" or "With love from." But if you're not a pro, don't try to authenticate Beatles or any expensive autographs yourself. It's worth the money to have them checked out by a respected music authenticator.

This is the Abbey Road album that Brian Waring bought from American Royal Arts, stereotypical of what's considered to be a Southern California forgery:



These are the seven very similar
Abbey Road albums that we know American Royal Arts offered from 2006 to 2009, all with the classic characteristics of what are thought to be Southern California forgeries. There likely are others we haven't seen:





We've identified the person who purchased this forged Abbey Road album from American Royal Arts. He's currently trying to get a refund on about $80,000 or more in what he has found to be fake memorabilia from ARA. Not just autographs, but posters as well.




The one right above was featured in an ad that American Royal Arts ran in Newsday in 2008, with the headlines:

HISTORIC BEATLES COLLECTION RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC!
Over 40 Years to Assemble—Can be Yours Today!


Here's a close-up of the Abbey Road album featured:


American Royal Arts customers who ask are generally told that ARA's classic rock autographs come from "record industry insiders who wish to remain confidential." If I sold ARA these autographs, I would, too.

But Gladstone fails to tell collectors what he told me two years ago. I confronted him with an image of a Beatles-signed Help lobby card from Forever Legends' Web site that was on page one of his catalog a few months later. He called me to explain that he couldn't get enough autographs from his "industry insiders," so he had to buy from dealers, too. Unfortunately, the three main dealers he bought classic rock autographs from are known as notorious sellers of forgeries:

  • Forever Legends www.foreverlegends.com: Owned by Maria Brockway
  • Heroes and Legends www.heroesandlegends.net: Owned by Myron Ross, who we kicked out as an advertiser in Autograph magazine and was later expelled from the UACC Registered Dealer program for selling forgeries.
  • Autograph Central www.autographcentral.net: Owned by Bryan Slaven, who was also expelled from the UACC for selling forgeries. We kicked them out of the magazine when we realized they were a problem, but unfortunately we didn't know until later that Slavin was booted from the UACC years before.

Gladstone told me over a year later in a three-way phone call last summer with another dealer that he had stopped buying from Forever Legends because he realized I was right—their autographs couldn't be trusted. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that ARA informed and issued refunds to their customers who bought the music and vintage Hollywood autographs that Gladstone bought from Forever Legends. At least the owner of the "Beatles-signed" Help lobby card hadn't been last I heard.

I'd be surprised if any of ARA's autographs came from so-called industry insiders. ARA sold Beatles albums for about $12,000 to $25,000, virtually all US releases that I know of. There are only about a dozen band-signed US label Beatles albums known, and they'd be easy to sell for $80,000 to $100,000 or more. As would many of the 20 or so UK release band-signed Beatles albums from Hard Day's Night on. (Please Please Me and With the Beatles are more common. There are perhaps 50-75 of the former known, and 15-20 of the latter). This doesn't mean that's all the signed Beatles albums that exist. These are all that are known that Beatles experts believe are genuine. While it rarely happens, every now and then a new band-signed Beatles album is discovered, and that's likely to continue well into the future.

It makes you wonder:

  • Why would people sell their autographed albums for such cheap prices to ARA or their suppliers, when with a few calls or emails they could find out what they're worth?
  • Why would the dealers Gladstone admitted he bought from sell them so cheap if they thought they were genuine? They know the market.
  • If Gladstone really thought the albums he offered were genuine, why would he sell them for cents on the dollar and pay expensive overhead, sales and marketing costs when he could put them in auction or sell them to dealers for many times more?
  • And why would he tell people he bought from record industry insiders and only admit to me that he bought from dealers once we called him on it? Why didn't he tell the truth?

If you've bought signed albums from American Royal Arts, or any dealer operating similarly, these are questions I would ask.

They're not alone. Here's a signed Abbey Road album on the Web site of Rock Star Gallery, with the same signing characteristics of all the ones that ARA has:


And here's a "Beatles-signed" Please Please Me album from Rock Star Gallery, which came out in 1963, with the same signature characteristics. It was only a UK release, so I don't know why the signatures look so good, since it came with a lacquered cover like UK Abbey Road albums. Perhaps the cover was treated so the ink would stick better or it's the pens they used:



But these aren't the only two dealers with similar autographs. Here's a White Album currently listed at Rockin Gems for only $4,995. I found more that looked similar on other sites, but they were too small to tell for sure:

There's only one known genuine White Album. It's worth over $100,000 and this isn't it.

Where there's smoke there's fire. Whether you're looking to buy a signed Beatles album or bought one; whether it's an Abbey Road or any other Beatles album; unless you know for a fact the album is genuine, please learn from this and take heed. Make sure what you're considering buying is genuine. Make sure what you own is too. That's what experts are for.

If you'd like input, advice, or you know you've been stung, email me and I'll be happy to help. And no, I don't have any signed Beatles albums for sale. I don't even sell rock and roll.

Update: We just found another Beatles-signed Abbey Road album from ARA with the same characteristics, but no Lennon caricature. That's nine total with Brian's. Here it is:




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Comment by Thorsten Knublauch on July 20, 2010 at 9:55pm
Hi - i just heard that the fully signed Abbey Road cover - shown in Lewisohns Beatles Chronicle book most likely is a fake, too.
I will try to upload a scan later...

Thorsten
Comment by Thorsten Knublauch on July 21, 2010 at 10:15am
Here is the pic of the faked Abbey Road Cover shown in Lewisohns Chronicle book

[IMG]http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn283/georgefromhenley/abbeyRoad...[/IMG]

Comment by donc on July 21, 2010 at 11:08am
Thorston,

Could you explain to me why you think this is a fake? As a novice in this area I need some direction on why you are calling this a fake.
The other ones on this page are all identical and I see how they are considered fake.
Can someone post exemplars? And show me true signatures. I’ve seen some, but they differ in some way. Not every signature is signed the same way. I know my own signature differs a bit here and there. What are you looking for in each of the four for it to be considered a true autograph by the Beatles?

Sincerely, Don
Comment by mark peterson on July 21, 2010 at 11:25am
[IMG]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w46/MAKAWAOMP/BANDONTHERUN.jpg[/IMG]Don, here is an example of a signed 70s Mccartney item.
Comment by Thorsten Knublauch on July 21, 2010 at 12:31pm
puh - too difficult to explain in a few words. the autograph should look like a set signed separately in the 70ies/80ies - according to the style of the signatures of the four but they are not genuine. They are not bad but you can spot the faults.
For a first overview just follow the link:
http://www.autographworld.com/beatles/sigstudy1.asp
Comment by Alexander Mehl on July 21, 2010 at 5:22pm
To donc,
it's always dangerous trying to explain in such blogs why such Beatles sigs on the Abbey Road sleeve are not genuine! I'm sure that many forgers reading here to find out what kind of faults they've done in the past.
Basically you have to look at the complete character of the writing. The speed, the pressure and significant signs which are to see within all Beatles sigs since the first day they wrote autographs. There are signs which never changed till today!! You must know i.e. in which way the guys holding a pen and start to write the first letter. McCartney is quite easy knowing he's a lefthand. Most forgers doesn't know it. No one knows when the Abbey Road LP Thorsten shows released. Is it the first or fifth reissue from 1985? 1985 - in this case there's no need to check a Lennon sig! It's always important to know when such a LP first appeared on market. Can you imagine that the LP LOVE SONGS from Bulgaria released 1978 ever signed by all four Beatles?
And I'm sure if you give such a "Southern California"-fake to a professional authentication service with five other S.C.-fakes for comparisation, they'll write a wonderful Certificate confirming all sigs are real and authentic! Some years ago got an eight pages COA issued by an graphologist confirming a complete Beatles autograph but.....the material he had to compare was written by the same forger!
Donc, if you compare your own signature written 20 years ago you'll always find significant marks in your sig of today. Isn't it?
Regarding the faked McCartney autograph I found so many faults in it to say it's really a poor fake.
Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 21, 2010 at 9:49pm
Don,

Thorsten's Abbey Road from Lewisohn's book is a Joe Long forgery. Long was the most successful Beatles forger from the 1980s to early-mid-90s, and you'd find his stuff everywhere: major dealers, auction houses, his own catalogs. He would mix good with bad, which is how he got away with it for so long, but as time went on there would be less good and more bad.

Long was not the Southern California forger, and if you compare the album to the So. Cal. ones above I think you'll easily be able to tell they're not signed by the same person.

Frank Caiazzo is the one who discovered that Joe Long was forging, but it took a good while before he could convince others. Long was well liked and entrenched in the field and no one wanted to believe it.

Thorsten, I'm glad you posted that image. With all the talk of the Southern California forger, it's easy to forget about Joe Long's work, and I'm sure there's a lot still buried away.
Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 21, 2010 at 9:54pm
Alexander,

Is this the Paul McCartney you're talking about?

Comment by Thorsten Knublauch on July 21, 2010 at 10:32pm
You are right - the Abbey Road was signed by a certain Joe Long, according to my source. I don`t know the name. Perhaps it was before I started collecting.
Another thing that should not be forgotten. In the 80ies and early 90ies even the "good" auction houses have sold fakes - without knowing. I talked to a collector the other day telling him that my "dream piece" would have been a fully signed "Rubber Soul" LP. He said that he never saw this album fully signed - and he saw a lot... I told him that I have seen this album in person when I was in London 1988 "accidentally" visiting a Sotheby auction when I was on holiday. I took a picture of the album. After 20 years of NOT looking at this old photo i scanned it and was shocked - it was clearly signed by Neil Aspinall and the recipiant has even written the place and date on the album cover (April 66, Abbey Road studio). Perhaps it was giving inside the building and came out signed and the fan thought it only could have been the Beatles. This album was sold (as far as I imagine it wasn`t withdrawn at the time) at the auction in summer of 1988. ( I would be interested who pays back the payment if after years the COA by Sothebys appears to be false....)
There are a lot of these "official" fakes (Aspinall or Evans sets) on the market and the forgeries by the Longs of the world are not counting.
Yes, it is easy to spot that the style of writing of Long and the "Californian" forger is different.

The autograph on the scatch plate looks genuine so there might be a fault in the listing - as with Lizzies auctions.
It is so difficult to really spot faults on Beatles sets. Sure - there are clear and poor fakes like Lennon signed Milk and honey albums or 80ies Beatles pressing signed by all four but the style of writing of the four Beatles changed a lot during the 60ies. Par example the first letter of even the words "John" and "Lennon" changed totally over the years. The more childish style from 1962 changed dramatically in mid 1963 when they signed a lot. From the mid sixties on Paul, George and Ringo did not changed that much but if you look at John from 1965 to 1980 you think this are 10 different persons... The experts could tell you by looking at certain autgraphs if the signatures were optain in March or April 1963 etc...

Even they are expensive - if you try to find a truly genuine set stick on the opinion of Tracks or Caiazzo and no one else in my opinion. With all other experts I have seen listings that were kind of strange and to be questioned. My opinion.

Thorsten
Comment by Alexander Mehl on July 22, 2010 at 4:54am
Hi Steve,
no, that's not the faked Macca sig mentioned on July 20th. This one on this shabby plastic board is genuine but show me where Macca placed his left hand to write here? It doesn't work! You surely know what I mean.

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