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Beatles-Signed Abbey Road Albums: What's Real? What's Fake?

Sometimes you just have enough. Brian Waring, a collector from Colorado, was one such fellow. He tried to sell a Beatles-signed Abbey Road and a Stones-signed Sticky Fingers album on eBay, but his listings were kicked-off because they thought they were forgeries. He was sure eBay was wrong—he paid tens of thousands of dollars for them from American Royal Arts, who claimed to be the world's largest seller of signed rock and roll. James Spence Authentication was at a local show, so he asked them to authenticate the albums to prove to eBay they were genuine.

When Brian came back to pick up his albums with JSA COAs, JSA sat him down and gave him the bad news—they were sure neither one was real.

Brian was shocked. ARA was a big, respectable-looking company, and the albums came with authentication papers from Christopher Morales, a court-approved forensic document examiner. But soon he realized JSA was right, so he contacted ARA, sure they would honor their guarantee of authenticity.

All he got was the runaround. So Brian told his story on Autograph Magazine Live! a few weeks ago, to warn other collectors, and, he hoped, get ARA president Jerry Gladstone's attention.

Brian got more than the attention of Gladstone and other collectors. He got a call from the FBI. And it wasn't until he started blogging about it that Gladstone seemed to take honoring ARA's guarantee seriously.

Brian took his blog posts down yesterday, because a refund from ARA seems to be forthcoming. He feels like he's done his part. I agree. Autograph is investigating the FBI's communications in the industry further and will report on them soon. But this is a great opportunity to talk about Beatles-signed Abbey Road albums, and a bit about signed Beatles albums in general.

Abbey Road is one of the favorite Beatles albums of all time. And like all Beatles albums besides Please Please Me and With the Beatles, complete band-signed albums are extremely rare: Only two known examples are recognized as genuine by Beatles autograph experts.

Lizzie Bravo got one of them signed. An "Apple Scruff"—one of the storied girls who were the ultimate Beatles fans—Lizzie was a 15 year old Brazilian teenager who moved to London with her family in 1967 and spent every free moment in front of Abbey Road Studios and more to be as close as she could to the boys she loved. "They Came in Through the Bathroom Window" was inspired by one of the Apple Scruffs, who entered Paul's house through an open window to see him.

But Lizzie was invited into Abbie Road Studios at least once. The Beatles needed girl back-up singers while recording "Across the Universe" in 1967. Paul didn't want to wait for professionals, so he went to the Scruffs waiting outside and asked if anyone could sing. Lizzie said yes...and the rest is history.

Cathy Sarver got the other one signed. Cathy was an American girl who hightailed it to London to meet the Beatles once out of high school. Both got them signed only by hanging out, relentlessly, outside Abbey Road Studios. Well, usually outside.

Abbey Road was released in September 1969, but the photos I have of Lizzie and Cathy are earlier.

Two 1967 photos of Lizzie with John Lennon:


Here's Cathy with each of the Beatles in 1968:






Lizzie and Cathy were in England when Abbey Road came out, so they bought the English release of the album. The English version had a slick, lacquered cover that you had to dig into to sign, so the autographs on both of them are rougher than they would be on American release albums, which had cheaper, lightly coated covers.


I don't have Lizzie's entire album, only the signatures:


John Lennon and Paul McCartney's autographs


George Harrison's autograph


Ringo Starr's autograph


Here's Cathy Sarver's Abbey Road album, signed by the entire band:


The stain in the lower left corner by George Harrison's autograph is from Cathy's cat peeing on it.

The Abbey Road albums above are the only ones called genuine by Beatles autograph experts.

But like all Beatles albums, that doesn't stop people from selling Abbey Road albums they claim are signed by the Beatles—experts be damned. Some of the most common ones that are not considered genuine are the ones known as Southern California forgeries, because that's where they appear to originate from. Most are fairly easy for experts to identify by the characteristics of the signatures. And the signature characteristics generally don't change much or at all with the age of the albums, whereas Beatles autographs changed significantly over time. Of course, an album can be signed years later than its release, or one autograph at a time over a decade or more. But when signed albums come out through the same sources, sold by the same dealers, with similar autographs, whether they're 1963 or 1970 releases, you have to ask...what the heck is going on?

One of the more common and easiest to detect characteristics of the ones called Southern California forgeries can be found in John Lennon's autograph. John Lennon didn't start drawing his smiling face caricature until about 1971, but many of the Southern California examples have it, often with the inscription "With love" or "With love from." But if you're not a pro, don't try to authenticate Beatles or any expensive autographs yourself. It's worth the money to have them checked out by a respected music authenticator.

This is the Abbey Road album that Brian Waring bought from American Royal Arts, stereotypical of what's considered to be a Southern California forgery:



These are the seven very similar
Abbey Road albums that we know American Royal Arts offered from 2006 to 2009, all with the classic characteristics of what are thought to be Southern California forgeries. There likely are others we haven't seen:





We've identified the person who purchased this forged Abbey Road album from American Royal Arts. He's currently trying to get a refund on about $80,000 or more in what he has found to be fake memorabilia from ARA. Not just autographs, but posters as well.




The one right above was featured in an ad that American Royal Arts ran in Newsday in 2008, with the headlines:

HISTORIC BEATLES COLLECTION RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC!
Over 40 Years to Assemble—Can be Yours Today!


Here's a close-up of the Abbey Road album featured:


American Royal Arts customers who ask are generally told that ARA's classic rock autographs come from "record industry insiders who wish to remain confidential." If I sold ARA these autographs, I would, too.

But Gladstone fails to tell collectors what he told me two years ago. I confronted him with an image of a Beatles-signed Help lobby card from Forever Legends' Web site that was on page one of his catalog a few months later. He called me to explain that he couldn't get enough autographs from his "industry insiders," so he had to buy from dealers, too. Unfortunately, the three main dealers he bought classic rock autographs from are known as notorious sellers of forgeries:

  • Forever Legends www.foreverlegends.com: Owned by Maria Brockway
  • Heroes and Legends www.heroesandlegends.net: Owned by Myron Ross, who we kicked out as an advertiser in Autograph magazine and was later expelled from the UACC Registered Dealer program for selling forgeries.
  • Autograph Central www.autographcentral.net: Owned by Bryan Slaven, who was also expelled from the UACC for selling forgeries. We kicked them out of the magazine when we realized they were a problem, but unfortunately we didn't know until later that Slavin was booted from the UACC years before.

Gladstone told me over a year later in a three-way phone call last summer with another dealer that he had stopped buying from Forever Legends because he realized I was right—their autographs couldn't be trusted. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that ARA informed and issued refunds to their customers who bought the music and vintage Hollywood autographs that Gladstone bought from Forever Legends. At least the owner of the "Beatles-signed" Help lobby card hadn't been last I heard.

I'd be surprised if any of ARA's autographs came from so-called industry insiders. ARA sold Beatles albums for about $12,000 to $25,000, virtually all US releases that I know of. There are only about a dozen band-signed US label Beatles albums known, and they'd be easy to sell for $80,000 to $100,000 or more. As would many of the 20 or so UK release band-signed Beatles albums from Hard Day's Night on. (Please Please Me and With the Beatles are more common. There are perhaps 50-75 of the former known, and 15-20 of the latter). This doesn't mean that's all the signed Beatles albums that exist. These are all that are known that Beatles experts believe are genuine. While it rarely happens, every now and then a new band-signed Beatles album is discovered, and that's likely to continue well into the future.

It makes you wonder:

  • Why would people sell their autographed albums for such cheap prices to ARA or their suppliers, when with a few calls or emails they could find out what they're worth?
  • Why would the dealers Gladstone admitted he bought from sell them so cheap if they thought they were genuine? They know the market.
  • If Gladstone really thought the albums he offered were genuine, why would he sell them for cents on the dollar and pay expensive overhead, sales and marketing costs when he could put them in auction or sell them to dealers for many times more?
  • And why would he tell people he bought from record industry insiders and only admit to me that he bought from dealers once we called him on it? Why didn't he tell the truth?

If you've bought signed albums from American Royal Arts, or any dealer operating similarly, these are questions I would ask.

They're not alone. Here's a signed Abbey Road album on the Web site of Rock Star Gallery, with the same signing characteristics of all the ones that ARA has:


And here's a "Beatles-signed" Please Please Me album from Rock Star Gallery, which came out in 1963, with the same signature characteristics. It was only a UK release, so I don't know why the signatures look so good, since it came with a lacquered cover like UK Abbey Road albums. Perhaps the cover was treated so the ink would stick better or it's the pens they used:



But these aren't the only two dealers with similar autographs. Here's a White Album currently listed at Rockin Gems for only $4,995. I found more that looked similar on other sites, but they were too small to tell for sure:

There's only one known genuine White Album. It's worth over $100,000 and this isn't it.

Where there's smoke there's fire. Whether you're looking to buy a signed Beatles album or bought one; whether it's an Abbey Road or any other Beatles album; unless you know for a fact the album is genuine, please learn from this and take heed. Make sure what you're considering buying is genuine. Make sure what you own is too. That's what experts are for.

If you'd like input, advice, or you know you've been stung, email me and I'll be happy to help. And no, I don't have any signed Beatles albums for sale. I don't even sell rock and roll.

Update: We just found another Beatles-signed Abbey Road album from ARA with the same characteristics, but no Lennon caricature. That's nine total with Brian's. Here it is:




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Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 22, 2010 at 6:42am
Hi Alexander,

What one were you talking about that you had removed from eBay the other day?
Comment by Alexander Mehl on July 22, 2010 at 7:03am
Hi Steve,
this one:

Ebay removed the item not me!
Auction read: Very rare signed "Ecce cor Meum" cd booklet by Paul McCartney. Brand new state.
Comes with certificate of authenticity from Frank Caiazzo. The autograph is obtained in the Virgin Mega store in London on 22nd November 2006. No reserve.
Starting bid: $ 99
Possibly seller is a liar or has a faked Caiazzo COA or Caiazzo failed.
Comment by roger epperson on July 22, 2010 at 7:20am

Regarding the McCartney pickguard below, it is without question authentic. Where he placed his hand was more then likely where the plastic had been cut away to make this shape. It is very common for people to get pieces of plastic signed, then cut them into a pickguard later.
What are reffered to as "Joe Long forgeries" do seem to be forgotten. What people must understand is many people have been forging Beatles autographs for many years. It is very hard to keep up with all of the different forgers that show up from time to time. My files on forgeries is twice the size as my files on authentic exemplars. Authenticating is not an easy job. People want to throw stones at us all the time but they have no idea what kind of work is involved in authenticating autographs. You must also remember that just because it's in print does not make it authentic. Here is an example form the very good book by Mark Lewisohn "The complete Beatles chronicles". On page 215 is another forgery from the same person that did the "Abbey Road" LP below. This book is as good as it gets for day to day events of The Beatles but this image is not authentic.
Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 22, 2010 at 8:00am
Alexander,

I do agree, that CD is a ridiculous forgery. But why did you say earlier that it was authenticated by Caiazzo when now you're saying you're not sure--and in fact, that the seller is likely lying? Not only is that unfair, it's damaging to his reputation and the hobby.

BTW, I agree that the McCartney pickguard is genuine. We're using it in an upcoming article and it's been seen by all of our experts, who agree that it's good. It was signed in LA...in June 2007 as I recall.

But someone in your group told eBay it was a forgery a few days ago and the listing was removed. The image online wasn't the one I uploaded. That was shot for Autograph magazine.
Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 22, 2010 at 9:05am
Thorsten,

There is a Beatles-signed Rubber Soul album! Only one that we know of, a UK release.
Comment by Thorsten Knublauch on July 22, 2010 at 9:13am
here is the Aspinall version from Sothebys... a UK version

Comment by Thorsten Knublauch on July 22, 2010 at 10:05am
PS - there also might be a German Rubber Soul LP signed during the German Blitztour on Jun 23rd 1966 in the hotel in Munich. There are several pics of Paul holding it and even pics of an album laying inside the car taking the Beatles from the airport in Munich. I don`t have the Monthly myself (it was used several times in the 80ies/90ies). Inside the car near the driver you can clearly spot the cover.

Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 22, 2010 at 12:27pm
Alexander, I talked to Frank Caiazzo. He did not issue authentication papers on that CD and has never even seen it before.
Comment by Alexander Mehl on July 22, 2010 at 2:34pm
Steve,
sorry, it's really not my intention to damage Caiazzo's reputation and I know that sometimes his COAs or LOAs were forged as well. But years ago tried several times to contact him in this matter and never received any response. Why should I try to contact him again?
Same happened with Cox in Scottsdale and since approx. 2 years all my emails and enquiries are returned 'cause my email-address is blocked. Why? Only Cox knows...!
We have to work together against the forgers and sellers of forgeries and not against people like me! I always try to protect fans and collectors buying faked Beatles sigs. That's it! BTW I'm not a dealer and not a collector of autographs!
Would you pay US-$ 8,000.00 for a used and faked guitar from India or Taiwan with a cheap plastic board originally signed by Paul McCartney cut and mounted on it and offered as "signed Hofner Violin Bass"?
What would you say if the famous Frank Caiazzo issues a COA with "I hereby guarantee the authenticity of the aforementioned Hofner bass pickguard which has been signed by Paul McCartney"? Hofner confirmed that the pickguard is not Hofner!
Take any guitar paste a piece of paper with a genuine autograph of John Lennon on it. Is this a signed guitar? No!
All responses are highly appreciated.
Comment by Thorsten Knublauch on July 22, 2010 at 10:14pm
Hi - i once received an answer by Perry over the ebay contact formular - all my emails directly to him bounced back. Yes - it is difficult to get an answer from Frank, too. Perhaps he is overflown with emails.

Yes Alexander, you are right. If it is discribed as a Hofner it should be a Hofner. In my first book we wrote a long story about Hofner and the guitars used by the Beatles "coming from Germany". BUT - as business is - they try to get as much money out of it as possible. So they use a 300 USD Taiwan Hofner instead of a 700 USD German Hofner of even a replica for 150 USD. Paul knows the value of signed guitars and refuses to sign them. I believe that`s why they get him to sign plastic and perhaps he thinks it is a White album. No idea how the hunters get away with this. It is easy to spot that every original scratch plate by Hofner is not looking plain white like this. There is a clip in youtube where Paul recently signed a Hofner in Mexico on the body.
In the 90ies John Hammel personally allowed fans to get their Hofner signed (on the body) and Paul liked to do so but if it is just for business reasons and not for fans I can understand why some celebs refuse to sign at all or even sell their autographs over their website or charge money at signing sessions (as some Star Wars actors).... Ringo, as I heard, hasn`t signed at all on his recent tour!

thorsten

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