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Beatles-Signed Abbey Road Albums: What's Real? What's Fake?

Sometimes you just have enough. Brian Waring, a collector from Colorado, was one such fellow. He tried to sell a Beatles-signed Abbey Road and a Stones-signed Sticky Fingers album on eBay, but his listings were kicked-off because they thought they were forgeries. He was sure eBay was wrong—he paid tens of thousands of dollars for them from American Royal Arts, who claimed to be the world's largest seller of signed rock and roll. James Spence Authentication was at a local show, so he asked them to authenticate the albums to prove to eBay they were genuine.

When Brian came back to pick up his albums with JSA COAs, JSA sat him down and gave him the bad news—they were sure neither one was real.

Brian was shocked. ARA was a big, respectable-looking company, and the albums came with authentication papers from Christopher Morales, a court-approved forensic document examiner. But soon he realized JSA was right, so he contacted ARA, sure they would honor their guarantee of authenticity.

All he got was the runaround. So Brian told his story on Autograph Magazine Live! a few weeks ago, to warn other collectors, and, he hoped, get ARA president Jerry Gladstone's attention.

Brian got more than the attention of Gladstone and other collectors. He got a call from the FBI. And it wasn't until he started blogging about it that Gladstone seemed to take honoring ARA's guarantee seriously.

Brian took his blog posts down yesterday, because a refund from ARA seems to be forthcoming. He feels like he's done his part. I agree. Autograph is investigating the FBI's communications in the industry further and will report on them soon. But this is a great opportunity to talk about Beatles-signed Abbey Road albums, and a bit about signed Beatles albums in general.

Abbey Road is one of the favorite Beatles albums of all time. And like all Beatles albums besides Please Please Me and With the Beatles, complete band-signed albums are extremely rare: Only two known examples are recognized as genuine by Beatles autograph experts.

Lizzie Bravo got one of them signed. An "Apple Scruff"—one of the storied girls who were the ultimate Beatles fans—Lizzie was a 15 year old Brazilian teenager who moved to London with her family in 1967 and spent every free moment in front of Abbey Road Studios and more to be as close as she could to the boys she loved. "They Came in Through the Bathroom Window" was inspired by one of the Apple Scruffs, who entered Paul's house through an open window to see him.

But Lizzie was invited into Abbie Road Studios at least once. The Beatles needed girl back-up singers while recording "Across the Universe" in 1967. Paul didn't want to wait for professionals, so he went to the Scruffs waiting outside and asked if anyone could sing. Lizzie said yes...and the rest is history.

Cathy Sarver got the other one signed. Cathy was an American girl who hightailed it to London to meet the Beatles once out of high school. Both got them signed only by hanging out, relentlessly, outside Abbey Road Studios. Well, usually outside.

Abbey Road was released in September 1969, but the photos I have of Lizzie and Cathy are earlier.

Two 1967 photos of Lizzie with John Lennon:


Here's Cathy with each of the Beatles in 1968:






Lizzie and Cathy were in England when Abbey Road came out, so they bought the English release of the album. The English version had a slick, lacquered cover that you had to dig into to sign, so the autographs on both of them are rougher than they would be on American release albums, which had cheaper, lightly coated covers.


I don't have Lizzie's entire album, only the signatures:


John Lennon and Paul McCartney's autographs


George Harrison's autograph


Ringo Starr's autograph


Here's Cathy Sarver's Abbey Road album, signed by the entire band:


The stain in the lower left corner by George Harrison's autograph is from Cathy's cat peeing on it.

The Abbey Road albums above are the only ones called genuine by Beatles autograph experts.

But like all Beatles albums, that doesn't stop people from selling Abbey Road albums they claim are signed by the Beatles—experts be damned. Some of the most common ones that are not considered genuine are the ones known as Southern California forgeries, because that's where they appear to originate from. Most are fairly easy for experts to identify by the characteristics of the signatures. And the signature characteristics generally don't change much or at all with the age of the albums, whereas Beatles autographs changed significantly over time. Of course, an album can be signed years later than its release, or one autograph at a time over a decade or more. But when signed albums come out through the same sources, sold by the same dealers, with similar autographs, whether they're 1963 or 1970 releases, you have to ask...what the heck is going on?

One of the more common and easiest to detect characteristics of the ones called Southern California forgeries can be found in John Lennon's autograph. John Lennon didn't start drawing his smiling face caricature until about 1971, but many of the Southern California examples have it, often with the inscription "With love" or "With love from." But if you're not a pro, don't try to authenticate Beatles or any expensive autographs yourself. It's worth the money to have them checked out by a respected music authenticator.

This is the Abbey Road album that Brian Waring bought from American Royal Arts, stereotypical of what's considered to be a Southern California forgery:



These are the seven very similar
Abbey Road albums that we know American Royal Arts offered from 2006 to 2009, all with the classic characteristics of what are thought to be Southern California forgeries. There likely are others we haven't seen:





We've identified the person who purchased this forged Abbey Road album from American Royal Arts. He's currently trying to get a refund on about $80,000 or more in what he has found to be fake memorabilia from ARA. Not just autographs, but posters as well.




The one right above was featured in an ad that American Royal Arts ran in Newsday in 2008, with the headlines:

HISTORIC BEATLES COLLECTION RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC!
Over 40 Years to Assemble—Can be Yours Today!


Here's a close-up of the Abbey Road album featured:


American Royal Arts customers who ask are generally told that ARA's classic rock autographs come from "record industry insiders who wish to remain confidential." If I sold ARA these autographs, I would, too.

But Gladstone fails to tell collectors what he told me two years ago. I confronted him with an image of a Beatles-signed Help lobby card from Forever Legends' Web site that was on page one of his catalog a few months later. He called me to explain that he couldn't get enough autographs from his "industry insiders," so he had to buy from dealers, too. Unfortunately, the three main dealers he bought classic rock autographs from are known as notorious sellers of forgeries:

  • Forever Legends www.foreverlegends.com: Owned by Maria Brockway
  • Heroes and Legends www.heroesandlegends.net: Owned by Myron Ross, who we kicked out as an advertiser in Autograph magazine and was later expelled from the UACC Registered Dealer program for selling forgeries.
  • Autograph Central www.autographcentral.net: Owned by Bryan Slaven, who was also expelled from the UACC for selling forgeries. We kicked them out of the magazine when we realized they were a problem, but unfortunately we didn't know until later that Slavin was booted from the UACC years before.

Gladstone told me over a year later in a three-way phone call last summer with another dealer that he had stopped buying from Forever Legends because he realized I was right—their autographs couldn't be trusted. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that ARA informed and issued refunds to their customers who bought the music and vintage Hollywood autographs that Gladstone bought from Forever Legends. At least the owner of the "Beatles-signed" Help lobby card hadn't been last I heard.

I'd be surprised if any of ARA's autographs came from so-called industry insiders. ARA sold Beatles albums for about $12,000 to $25,000, virtually all US releases that I know of. There are only about a dozen band-signed US label Beatles albums known, and they'd be easy to sell for $80,000 to $100,000 or more. As would many of the 20 or so UK release band-signed Beatles albums from Hard Day's Night on. (Please Please Me and With the Beatles are more common. There are perhaps 50-75 of the former known, and 15-20 of the latter). This doesn't mean that's all the signed Beatles albums that exist. These are all that are known that Beatles experts believe are genuine. While it rarely happens, every now and then a new band-signed Beatles album is discovered, and that's likely to continue well into the future.

It makes you wonder:

  • Why would people sell their autographed albums for such cheap prices to ARA or their suppliers, when with a few calls or emails they could find out what they're worth?
  • Why would the dealers Gladstone admitted he bought from sell them so cheap if they thought they were genuine? They know the market.
  • If Gladstone really thought the albums he offered were genuine, why would he sell them for cents on the dollar and pay expensive overhead, sales and marketing costs when he could put them in auction or sell them to dealers for many times more?
  • And why would he tell people he bought from record industry insiders and only admit to me that he bought from dealers once we called him on it? Why didn't he tell the truth?

If you've bought signed albums from American Royal Arts, or any dealer operating similarly, these are questions I would ask.

They're not alone. Here's a signed Abbey Road album on the Web site of Rock Star Gallery, with the same signing characteristics of all the ones that ARA has:


And here's a "Beatles-signed" Please Please Me album from Rock Star Gallery, which came out in 1963, with the same signature characteristics. It was only a UK release, so I don't know why the signatures look so good, since it came with a lacquered cover like UK Abbey Road albums. Perhaps the cover was treated so the ink would stick better or it's the pens they used:



But these aren't the only two dealers with similar autographs. Here's a White Album currently listed at Rockin Gems for only $4,995. I found more that looked similar on other sites, but they were too small to tell for sure:

There's only one known genuine White Album. It's worth over $100,000 and this isn't it.

Where there's smoke there's fire. Whether you're looking to buy a signed Beatles album or bought one; whether it's an Abbey Road or any other Beatles album; unless you know for a fact the album is genuine, please learn from this and take heed. Make sure what you're considering buying is genuine. Make sure what you own is too. That's what experts are for.

If you'd like input, advice, or you know you've been stung, email me and I'll be happy to help. And no, I don't have any signed Beatles albums for sale. I don't even sell rock and roll.

Update: We just found another Beatles-signed Abbey Road album from ARA with the same characteristics, but no Lennon caricature. That's nine total with Brian's. Here it is:




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Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 10, 2010 at 12:06am
Carol Bedford is living in England, I believe in a convalescent home. Like you, I'm really looking forward to Lizzie's book, Thorsten. I want one of the first signed copies!

Lizzie's right: Carol and her father thought her Abbey Road was signed by all four Beatles. But when her dad took it out to show it to the gentleman who ended up buying it, they couldn't find Paul's autograph on it. Here are photocopies of John's, George's and Ringo's signatures on the album. Click the images to see them larger:


Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 10, 2010 at 12:26am
Alex,

Why do you think the McCartney's bad? You know a lot more about these than I do, but it feel genuine to me. "Paul" especially.

Comment by Thorsten Knublauch on November 10, 2010 at 12:34am
Hi - sorry Steve but the signature really is bad. There is nearly everyt letter wrong with it.

thorsten
Comment by Lizzie Bravo on November 10, 2010 at 2:35am
Good morning all! I had never seen Carol's signed album before! She has not passed away, but has severe MS, cannot walk or speak and lives in a nursing facility in London - this is very sad! Unlike you, Thorsten, none of us Scruffs or even other friends like that book. Carol was a troubled teenager, and she let her imagination run wild while doing that book. She wrote about times when she wasn't even there, she used people's photos without permission (including one of mine), she refused to show the manuscript to her friends before the book was out - which is something her editor has requested of her. She wrote things about George that were totally not true. It's sad that this is the only book about the Scruffs out to date. When the book that my friend Gill has recently started to write comes out, people will know more about the whole thing.
Comment by Thorsten Knublauch on November 10, 2010 at 2:47am
Hi Lizzie - I look forward to every book that comes out written by the fans who really where present at Savile Row or Abbey Road at that time and as every reader at first i have to believe that the author tells the truth. It is sad if Carols book is not fully authentic.
I think the book "All our loving" Carolyn Lee Mitchell was also written from a sixties fan and her experiences, mainly with Paul but I haven`t read it.
Lizzie - get the things right in book - you are a famous name in Beatles history and you deserve to tell your story! You said, that you kept diaries and got letters back you wrote to your friends at the time so there will be a great chance that your stories are historical correct and will bring new lights to certain events. I am looking forward and as said - need at least 3 books ;-)

thorsten
Comment by Alexander Mehl on November 10, 2010 at 3:14am
To Adam Birros: Correct is that at PSA/DNA the registration number 81978400 exist but no picture! I couldn't find one. http://www.psacard.com/verification/verify.chtml
To Thorsten Knublauch: Thanks for your opinion - I agree - 100%.
To Steve Cyrkin: It feel not genuine to me. There's really no place in this terrible market for feelings! A signature is genuine or not and there's nothing in between. Isn't it?
Comment by Lizzie Bravo on November 10, 2010 at 3:29am
Hi again! Just a note to let you know that I am going to sell the 3 George autographs I posted somewhere on this blog, which belong to two friends of mine here in Rio. If anyone's interested, please e-mail me at lizzie.bravo@gmail.com - but please, no dealers with low prices. I won't let my friends get ripped off. I hope to have time to list them on ebay this weekend. Thanks!
Comment by Lizzie Bravo on November 10, 2010 at 3:35am
A funny one: my Brazilian-American friend Paula was visiting London and I dragged her along on my daily "Beatling" activities - which she loved, being a devout Paul fan. She got to see all of them more than once and even went to that Jimi Hendrix concert where he played Sgt. Pepper with me. She has two Paul autographs, but this one is really unusual. It was signed on a "The Family Way" cover (if I'm not mistaken...) and yes, we used to cut up everything, even album covers... I just thought you would enjoy seeing it. I have never seen another "love TO

Paul McCartney" autograph. She does not want to sell.
Comment by Lizzie Bravo on November 10, 2010 at 3:39am
I'm sorry I didn't write the post below very well: of course I didn't play Sgt. Pepper with Jimi Hendrix, it's Paula who went with me to the concert. I guess I can be excused, since my language is Portuguese... and my second language is Spanish (I lived in Caracas, Venezuela for 8 years as a child), so English is my third. Love to all from yet another glorious morning in Rio de Janeiro.
Comment by roger epperson on November 10, 2010 at 6:44am
Correct, that Paul is horrible.

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