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John Lennon autographs ... hoping they are real

These two items were purchased at an auction in Europe in 1994.
I'm hoping the authographs are real.
I'm open to any and all feedback.
Thanks

Tags: John, Lennon, autographs

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 2, 2016 at 10:11am

I literally just opened my eyes but they look like facsimiles. Autopen and preprint?

Wait for the words of others - I could easily be mistaken.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on December 2, 2016 at 2:29pm

They look real to me, if someone knows that these are what eric says ,im sure they will let you know. They look mid 70's.

Wait until you here from the Beatles dealers.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on December 2, 2016 at 3:34pm

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 2, 2016 at 3:54pm

Exactly what I saw Terrier8HOF. And a dot or two.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Paul on December 2, 2016 at 4:28pm

Well spotted . Yep autopen.

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Permalink Reply by Edward Siebert on December 2, 2016 at 3:38pm

I don't think they're real, sorry.

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Permalink Reply by Basha Fischer on December 2, 2016 at 4:41pm

Thanks for saving me a long trip to try to get the LOA ... just asking your opinion do these hold any value if they are auto pen?
Thanks

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Permalink Reply by Paul on December 2, 2016 at 4:42pm

The short answer is no!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 2, 2016 at 6:31pm

They're not Autopen, Basha, but unfortunately, they look like forgeries to me. The stiffness is from being slowly signed or perhaps traced to a degree.

I'm so sorry you got burned...we all are. It happens far too often. Do you recall where you bought them? If the auction house is still in business, perhaps there's a guarantee of authenticity.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 2, 2016 at 6:45pm

Yes, extreme hesitancy. Thank you Steve.

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Permalink Reply by Basha Fischer on December 2, 2016 at 8:15pm

It was a Beatles auction in France in the summer of 1994 ... a family member of a good friend got them for me ...that's about all I know ... I was on the phone with him when he bought them and was bidding on them ...doubt I can trace much back that far out of country and all... thanks everyone for looking ... I was saving these for a rainy day to see their value ... guess now I know