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Permalink Reply by Jason H on November 25, 2022 at 5:42pm

I'm still researching his signature. If the ambidextrous theory doesn't pan out, I may just switch to feeling this way. Its really strange how Nichole was fighting certain aspects. Im going to keep on gathering information and researching every aspect.. message to Bobs team - if you are watching this thread still, contact me and maybe you can buy my silence haha oops, too late

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Permalink Reply by Nichole on November 25, 2022 at 7:24pm

No he admitted some are autopen 

and they are from that last batch 

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Permalink Reply by PFCollector on November 25, 2022 at 5:29pm

Hopefully they give everyone who bought the fake copy first dibs if they're actually real this time. After all this if they sent out fakes again that would be beyond dumb. So I'd probably be inclined to believe they'd be real after this mess. Hopefully not secretarial but definitely no more autopen I'd hope... at least until they improve that technology. Lol

At this point they've seen what hundreds or thousands of autograph collectors can do collectively. So trying to pass fakes again would be a terrible idea. They'd be better off not doing anything. Buy I hope they do send out real signed stuff to people who bought the fakes.

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Permalink Reply by 5816nick on November 26, 2022 at 12:33am

If he did sign the Book Copies  for S&S he should also sign for the Indigo Customers too!

Likewise he would obviously need to Sign every single fraudulantly sold art Print, all the many thousands of loyal, loving Bob Dylan Super Fans - who tirelessly worked many hours to afford to buy these prints and books in the first place, I used my heating oil fund to buy my Dylan Signed Indigo Book ! So was prepared to go Cold this winter for you Bob !!!

It's a shame Bob didn't lift a damn finger - he should be disgusted with himself and how he has de-frauded many thousands of loyal fans! 

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Permalink Reply by PFCollector on November 26, 2022 at 12:48am

I think at least the S&S customers should get something, and definitely the print people. I'm sure there's a decent amount of overlap between the Indigo and S&S buyers... or maybe they shouldn't get anything for being as dumb as I am and believing they might be real after the first time... So maybe only the print people should get anything after all lol. 

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Permalink Reply by michelle on November 26, 2022 at 12:51am

Any artists here?  Has anyone actually seen Dylan  painting any of his so ccalled materpeices in the last few years?

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Permalink Reply by Tony on November 26, 2022 at 4:54am

When i paint that masterpiece 

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Permalink Reply by Jason H on November 25, 2022 at 5:14pm

If he had vertigo, just take a break from signing, dont come up with a way to steal millions from your fanbase.. amazing.. Im Bob Dylan and I can rob a bank if I just tell the cops I twisted my ankle.. this is his thinking?

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Permalink Reply by crazyrabbits23 on November 25, 2022 at 9:53pm

I've been saying this since the beginning. Dylan didn't have to do any of this.

1) He penned a book (potentially ghostwritten, IMO) that is currently getting flak from other artists (allegedly for impacting their reputations).

2) He either signed off on or was ignorant on the plan to autopen (neither is a good look), though it now seems he did know about it and excused the whole thing by claiming it was due to "vertigo", which is a cop-out.

3) When it was discovered that the Indigo batch was faked, they not only turned to a different distribution vector, but either convinced or lied through their teeth so much that multiple parties at S&S (including its President, the head of one of its largest divisions, design, marketing and PR teams) took them at their word and doubled-down on it.

4) It's had the knock-on effect of not only making Dylan look like a fool for tacitly endorsing this scheme, but led to claims/proof that some (potentially most?) of his prints are either autopen or secretarial. The jury's still out on that one.

And all of this is happening in a pandemic/post-pandemic era where artists are getting routinely caught out while trying to fleece their fans. What did Dylan's team think was going to happen?

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Permalink Reply by Tony on November 25, 2022 at 5:20pm

Good job everyone . You all did god’s  work 

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Permalink Reply by Tony on November 25, 2022 at 5:24pm

He has vertigo but was able to play about 100 concerts a year for two hours a night and travel worldwide but didn’t have the stamina to signs is name a few times a day ?

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Permalink Reply by PFCollector on November 25, 2022 at 6:07pm

Or just send everyone who bought a fake signature a signed photo as a good will gesture... or even better a signed vinyl. I'll sign over my legal rights to sue if he sends me one of those... I'll sign it with a non legally binding fake signature though. Joking of course. 

At minimum a discount would be nice... but I hope they at least give everyone who wasted their time and money dealing with the fake books first dibs on anything they put out that is real. Otherwise it doesn't do the people that had faith in Bob in the first place, and those who went through the trouble much good. 

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