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Could this Helen Keller signature be real?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/195966521424?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkri...

I have my doubts but wanted your opinions on this. I am leaning towards a type of forgery. I know she used secretarial ttm at times but sometimes was authentic with letters/documents ttm. I think with letters/documents you can figure it out, but these stand alone signatures I have a hard time determining if they could be authentic or just a good (or even bad) forgery. Thanks for any thoughts and opinions.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on September 4, 2023 at 6:40pm

Hmm. No returns. I wonder who issued the certificate.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on September 4, 2023 at 6:41pm

One wonders why this is not certified/slabbed. I should think it would be well worth the investment as a seller?

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Permalink Reply by JMS1223 on September 4, 2023 at 6:53pm

I looked at their other listings and they have a bunch of different things. It could very well be they picked up a lot at an estate sale or something…or much (or all) is fake and they are trying to make it look like an estate find.

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Permalink Reply by Garrett Meadows on September 5, 2023 at 7:49pm

I agree totally. Whenever I see an autographed item, then look at the seller's other items which may be sports memorabilia or a hodge-podge of items, I back off immediately. And when you press the seller to produce a COA and they don't, either (a) they don't want to the expense, or (b) they are fearful it's a forgery.

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Permalink Reply by JMS1223 on September 9, 2023 at 6:23pm

Interestingly this sold for over $300. I am guessing someone thought it was authentic. Usually questionable signatures bring under $50 at most so this was either a good forgery or authentic. I know nothing about who issued the COA but perhaps it was someone reputable so that’s why it went for good money. I wish I knew more about authenticating Helen Keller signatures.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on September 9, 2023 at 6:34pm

The COA was from Alexander Collectibles.

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Permalink Reply by JMS1223 on September 9, 2023 at 6:55pm

I am not familiar with them. Are they reputable?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 9, 2023 at 8:28pm

Glad you didn't buy it! That's definitely not real IMO. Helen Keller's writing and signatures were quite consistent and that one is missing many of her characteristics.